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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

HeatCheck said:
The Knicks proposal might be interesting but have a feeling Hardy would play Fournier and we would hate it as much as watching Gay. From the eye test he's just playing out the string which is why they are willing to give up assets to move off his contract. He's also a guy who was never known to play much defense even when he was still in his prime. The draft capital would be key here as you just know he's going to pick up that 24-25 $19mil player option. The Jazz would have alot of dead salary on their books next season between Gay, THT, and Fournier unless they are able to move at least one of them in a trade this offseason.

Obi's shooting could potentially fit between Kessler and Lauri. He's still on a rookie scale contract so it's not like you are married to him like you would be with John Collins. Defensively not great. He has the athleticism but his lateral quickness is the issue. Not a perfect fit but still a closer than either Vando or KO at this point. Doesn't really solve any of the Jazz defensive issues but KO is a really low bar on that side of the ball. Actually OBI + Fournier combined contracts are approx equivalent to Collins' deal except the latter runs longer.

Snooping around, the Knicks would definitely NOT include Quickley or Grimes in this sort of trade which makes sense since they were even hesitant to include them in a Donovan deal.
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I think we’d get a protected pick. I like the potential of Obi and think Fournier is a much better reclamation project than Gay. He shoots the leather off the ball for 30 games we turn him into a positive… if not he’s an expiring contract we can use in a trade.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think we’d get a protected pick. I like the potential of Obi and think Fournier is a much better reclamation project than Gay. He shoots the leather off the ball for 30 games we turn him into a positive… if not he’s an expiring contract we can use in a trade.
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I believe Fournier has a player option for '24-25 which he would definitely pick up.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
What the hell is the deal with his finger? Is it fixable. If JC can’t shoot I have no interest in him… his shot seems to have disappeared and I wonder if it’s the wonky *** finger. Atlanta isn’t giving a pick though… so I think it’s a no go.
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His FG% is 50.9 (despite his 3P hurting it) and his FT% is 78.9, so above career average.

I think its long shot confidence or something like that rather than the finger.
 
I don’t know much about the two guys you Jazz are offering tho the Knicks; but I do know about the two Knicks you may be getting:

Fournier single handedly beat team USA in the Olympics. He is still a lights out three shooter. Last year he set a three point record for the Knicks and finished fourth in NBA in three pointers made. I hate Thibs for not playing the guy. Oh, Thibs says Fournier can’t play defense. So what, Gretzky couldn’t play goalie, coach Sather still played Wayne every game.

Obi is an exciting player, comes off the bench with great energy, makes a few stops, puts up a quick basket or two. That’s it. That’s his game. He can contribute, but if he plays or doesn’t play, the outcome of the game would be the same.

By the way, Fournier is a judo master. His father is the France Olympic judo coach or something. Fournier is tough. Your team won’t be pushed around when he is out there.
 
MeloTheJazzKiller said:
Let’s get this out of the way first:

If you want Obi, Fournier and some picks, you Jazz must include Donovan Mitchell. Three team trade, you send Markinnen to Cleveland, they send Donovan to us, we send you Fournier, Obi Wan, and some picks.
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Dude try a different strain. Maybe a nice indica? Definitely gotta drop the crack.
 
HeatCheck said:
Interesting. I read player option somewhere else.
If he's basically an expiring the draft compensation would be one of their crap picks.
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That Dallas pick doesn't suck. I'd be actually happier cheering against Dallas than I am against Minny.
 
I dont see any 23 firsts coming our way, unless they are upgrades to outgoing 23 firsts we already own. Still means not picking more than 3 rooks.
I don't see how Ainge could possibly plan on bringing in 3 rookies to camp with guaranteed contracts. Maybe get a rookie scale project drafted in last couple seasons and a pick in the 30's for our 3rd rookie on a non guaranteed g-league assignment plan etc instead of stashing the Nets picked guy and never seeing him again.
I am hoping we get 2 quality lottery level prospects, and if we can pick up a late lottery projected first in 2024 for JC or Beasley great.
 
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