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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

Not to go back to the maelstrom but:

If the Bulls are trading Lonzo, it’s cuz they think he’s busted. So yeah, not sending assets for that. The value being swapped is present value (an NBA basketball player that can be really good, and saving them at least ~$20-30 million real dollars) for a CHANCE at future value.

I make that trade straight across, I’m not attaching ****.
 
Trading for Ball is a really, really bad idea. That kind of thing almost never works out. The only exceptions I can think of are Curry and Embiid. Those 2 compared with dozens going the other way.

That being said, if you could get him for something like the Philly pick and Conley you have to do it. We are the Utah Jazz and need to make our own luck. Nobody is giving us a high pick in a draft that matters, we aren't getting a FA we don't overpay. We have to take risks other teams don't.

I make the offer, leave it open for a specified time, and when and if that offer expires I move on with my life. The more certainty the Bulls get the better chance we get screwed.
 
framer said:
Trading for Ball is a really, really bad idea. That kind of thing almost never works out. The only exceptions I can think of are Curry and Embiid. Those 2 compared with dozens going the other way.

That being said, if you could get him for something like the Philly pick and Conley you have to do it. We are the Utah Jazz and need to make our own luck. Nobody is giving us a high pick in a draft that matters, we aren't getting a FA we don't overpay. We have to take risks other teams don't.

I make the offer, leave it open for a specified time, and when and if that offer expires I move on with my life. The more certainty the Bulls get the better chance we get screwed.
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Yeah, anyone saying they wouldnt do it for matching vet salary and the Philly pick is out of their mind. I'm OK with people being against the Philly and Minny pick, but just giving up one for a gamble is well worth it.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Not to go back to the maelstrom but:

If the Bulls are trading Lonzo, it’s cuz they think he’s busted. So yeah, not sending assets for that. The value being swapped is present value (an NBA basketball player that can be really good, and saving them at least ~$20-30 million real dollars) for a CHANCE at future value.

I make that trade straight across, I’m not attaching ****.
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Agreed. Lonzo has had knee issues going back to high school and is still owed over $60 mil the next 3 seasons. Love his archetype as a player but the injury issues are way too prevalent. I might trade them Conley but not trading any other assets considering the Jazz could potentially be on the hook for over $20mil in '24-25 when Conley is already off the books. The Bulls fans are basically resigned to the fact he will likely be out the entire '22-23 season after this surgery.

If Jazz are going to take a wild swing on that type of player I might monitor Ben Simmons this season to see if he fits with KD/Kyrie. Yes Simmons brings his own set of issues but depending on the asking price might be the better reclamation project. He could build up his confidence in relative anonymity out here in Utah compared to Philly or Brooklyn.
 
LogGrad98 said:
He is reaping second-hand karma for what a total douchebag his dad is.



Uh, no offense.



Seriously though it is too bad. He has the tools that is for sure.

But, you know, my empathy is tempered a bit. I mean now all he has to fall back on is the millions and millions he has "earned", before the age of 25, playing a school-yard game. I feel sooooo bad for him. :rolleyes:
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Kinda petty mate
 
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