Conflating correlation and causation.I don’t wanna read 30 pages, can somebody cliffnotes me?
Now do this as a Venn diagram.nothing really useful... some people still hate Rudy... some people still love him... some people are dumb.
Conflating correlation and causation.I don’t wanna read 30 pages, can somebody cliffnotes me?
Now do this as a Venn diagram.nothing really useful... some people still hate Rudy... some people still love him... some people are dumb.
There isn't 30 pages worth of material in the last 300. It's entirely my fault, I think.I don’t wanna read 30 pages, can somebody cliffnotes me?
I have no issue blaming you. Seems the easiest route tbhThere isn't 30 pages worth of material in the last 300. It's entirely my fault, I think.
Nobody did. You made a statement that outside of Shaq and Hakeem, no premier center has won a title. Not sure why you used the term premier center or what you meant by it, but that was your comparison. Not sure how it relates to us, but you still haven’t answered the question on the historical precedent of building around a 6’1” SG and how many times that’s led to rings (qualifier that I’m not making this argument). I guess maybe we could give credit and say Iverson made it to the finals, while simultaneously dismissing that so did Dikembe.This thread has gone so far off topic that people are comparing Gobert to Giannis.
Are we pretending Duncan was a PF... he was a center.Nobody did. You made a statement that outside of Shaq and Hakeem, no premier center has won a title. Not sure why you used the term premier center or what you meant by it, but that was your comparison. Not sure how it relates to us, but you still haven’t answered the question on the historical precedent of building around a 6’1” SG and how many times that’s led to rings (qualifier that I’m not making this argument). I guess maybe we could give credit and say Iverson made it to the finals, while simultaneously dismissing that so did Dikembe.
Biggest issue is you don’t win championships building everything around an offensively limited center. Period. Full stop. Semicolons. Wait a comma because I’m not done. But period. Seriously.Are we pretending Duncan was a PF... he was a center.
The biggest thing you need to win in today's league is two-way players (at any position). If Steph was still playing Trae Young style defense they wouldn't win titles either. Rudy has some offensive value... though it is limited in ways. Is Donovan? Is anyone else on the roster? Okay... so what is our biggest issue?
Hey... you are on to something... and to really make we hit the nail on the head what we should do is name ourselves the Utah Nouns.All NBA champions have been nouns for their team name. No team has ever won a chip whose name wasn’t a noun. Jazz isn’t a noun. We cannot win a championship without a noun. A rebrand is necessary.
HH said "Giannis is also a center... AD is a center... centers are important still" which still has me wondering what the hell he's trying to say.Nobody did. You made a statement that outside of Shaq and Hakeem, no premier center has won a title. Not sure why you used the term premier center or what you meant by it, but that was your comparison. Not sure how it relates to us, but you still haven’t answered the question on the historical precedent of building around a 6’1” SG and how many times that’s led to rings (qualifier that I’m not making this argument). I guess maybe we could give credit and say Iverson made it to the finals, while simultaneously dismissing that so did Dikembe.
No team has ever won an NBA championship with “U” being the first letter in their location name. On the contrary, San Antonio has won many and the Sonics and St. Louis Hawks have won them. Even the Syracuse Nationals.Hey... you are on to something... and to really make we hit the nail on the head what we should do is name ourselves the Utah Nouns.
It’s good news but less relevant with a coaching change.Yes! This is the best news I've heard all week.
It’s good news but less relevant with a coaching change.
It’s possible but I’d say if that came to fruition, it’s indicative of many other problems and we’re screwed if that’s the route they took.You never know, I could see Johnnie Bryant or Alex Jensen playing him as much as Quin did because they already have a relationship with him.
I was more curious on the “dumb” circle.
Trash? Hell no.