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We didn't get rid of Crowder to get rid of him, he was necessary for the trade to get Conley.

And you bet your *** I would've kept Crowder and shipped Exum's busted *** out of here instead. Better a forward that leaves something to be desired as a shooter than a guard that is worse at shooting and cannot stay healthy that costs more money somehow.

It's a valid point but I'd say if we really wanted to keep Crowder we'd have found a way to keep him -- like maybe giving up Exum instead. Booker has been available in the past and has made comments or hints that he'd like to be back but the Jazz don't seem to have interest. I think Booker is what he is at this point. We've had too many people who can't shoot in the past and we're going a different direction now. I'd rather see if Niang can keep improving, see how Jeff Green pans out, see if we can develop Brantley, or whatever.
 
I'm here to be the echo chamber for @Handlogten's Heros and @infection yet again. There is a list of players of significant length that the Jazz could still sign outright that would be more useful than Bradley, and Booker is near the top of that list. And I'm not even suggesting he be in the regular rotation. But I'd be much more comfortable throwing Booker out there on special teams or in an emergency than a kid that doesn't look like an NBA player in the G-League and has played like 69 total NBA minutes or some ****.


I almost started a new thread last night but didn't want to start a Dante thread that goes places it shouldn't... but was listening to Zach Lowe's podcast with David Epstein... they talked about sunk cost fallacy and that is when it got interesting... around the 25 minute mark. Zach said there is a team that he had some front office contact with that drafted a player in the last 5 years that has some trade value because he is still intriguing... because he hasn't been on the court much... he paused and said for a couple reasons. Zach was really trying to make sure no one knew who he was talking about. I thought he was going to say because of injury. He said there is outside interest in the player because of intrigue and some in the front office think they should move on and collect the value (said it wasn't a lot of value)… then he said that some of the mainstays in the front office are so bought in that it is a complete non-starter because they drafted him.

I'm 90% sure he was talking about Dante because there aren't many guys that fit the description... honestly I couldn't think of any. Anyway... I think some in our front office may be too emotionally attached to guys we pick and make decisions based on sunk costs... Dante is one example... Bradley imo is another. I think we stick with things a little too long sometimes when the data points suggest it ain't working.

Here is the way to think about it... if Tony Bradley was a free agent and we have an open roster spot... would you give him a two-year $5.5m (in total) deal? Would you give him a 1 year 2M deal? Or would you rather go for someone with more upside on a minimum (multi-year) deal or a vet on a minimum deal?

If DL was in full control there is no way we cut Bradley and open up a roster spot... Zanik doe... maybe? He just makes no sense on this roster and we have a few roster spots committed to development type players already.
 
It's a valid point but I'd say if we really wanted to keep Crowder we'd have found a way to keep him -- like maybe giving up Exum instead. Booker has been available in the past and has made comments or hints that he'd like to be back but the Jazz don't seem to have interest. I think Booker is what he is at this point. We've had too many people who can't shoot in the past and we're going a different direction now. I'd rather see if Niang can keep improving, see how Jeff Green pans out, see if we can develop Brantley, or whatever.
Having Booker on the roster isn’t mutually exclusive of those other outcomes, he’d just be another option and as or more importantly, he’d have worth off the floor which can’t be said of Bradley.
 
It's a valid point but I'd say if we really wanted to keep Crowder we'd have found a way to keep him -- like maybe giving up Exum instead. Booker has been available in the past and has made comments or hints that he'd like to be back but the Jazz don't seem to have interest. I think Booker is what he is at this point. We've had too many people who can't shoot in the past and we're going a different direction now. I'd rather see if Niang can keep improving, see how Jeff Green pans out, see if we can develop Brantley, or whatever.

Book would be Ed Davis and Rudy insurance... in some matchups he could play the mobile small ball 5 and if we have issues matching up with supersize teams he could step in and play the 4.

I think Green and Niang would be ahead of him for time at the 4... but Book gives us some variance we don't have.
 
Book would be Ed Davis and Rudy insurance... in some matchups he could play the mobile small ball 5 and if we have issues matching up with supersize teams he could step in and play the 4.

I think Green and Niang would be ahead of him for time at the 4... but Book gives us some variance we don't have.
Booker at the 4, ok. Booker at the 5? Give me Bradley

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I really despise the Bradley-hate. Wtf is your evidence? Lack of evidence isn’t evidence, btw.

Booker is cool. But finding him and Ed Davis minutes would be a question not worth asking (and they shouldn’t be on the floor at the same time).
 
I really despise the Bradley-hate. Wtf is your evidence? Lack of evidence isn’t evidence, btw.

Booker is cool. But finding him and Ed Davis minutes would be a question not worth asking (and they shouldn’t be on the floor at the same time).
Personally I think Bradley could be an NBA player eventually. He has grown a lot since he was drafted

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