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Trey's not going to stop, till he's one of the best.

jjscap said:
He is very underrated among Jazz fans lol. He will be an all-star in this league.
Funny how people say he can't shoot. He had above-average FG% for a rookie year. Not to mention he took those mid-court shots at the ends of quarters which hurt this FG%. Besides he got 90% FT ffs.
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Well he did shot very poorly period. Whether it be rookie or otherwise and I don't think all the half court heaves really played that big of a role. To me you have to look at two areas for his poor shooting (and somebody beat me to one). 1st you have to look at the injury to the most important finger on his shooting hand. There's no way you can say having a broken finger on his shooting index finger had no impact on his shooting %'s. Second was poor shot selection. Which IMO wasn't always on him. In fact if I had to access a % of blame on his poor shot selection 65% of it would go to the offensive system which saw the ball rotate to Trey late in the shot clock. Burke is and likely never will be the type of player that can just put his head down and drive into traffic and finish at a high clip. Burke is a guy that has to have the option to drive and kick to keep rim protectors and help side defenders honest. So Trey often settled for 3's and long 2's because he couldn't play to his strengths. You let him attack early especially out of the PNR and not only does his % at the basket goes up, but his overall shooting percentage and his assist rate.
 
da ThRONe said:
I think the problem is his physical gifts not necessarily his ceiling.

As a Hornets/Pelicans fan I watched Chris Paul early in career even at WF. He doesn't have top notch quickness or explosiveness. What he had was great handles, great ball-handling, crafty moves, length, good upper and lower body strength, and excellent body control. These are pretty much Trey's characteristics. While Chris was farther along in some of those and a few other attributes Trey IMO isn't far behind. So I certainly don't think Burke has a low ceiling he just isn't the athlete that John Wall is. Just looking at the games consensus two best PG's over the last decade Paul and Nash being that elite athlete really isn't the prerequisite as some like to think it is.
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how many titles do they have? How many trips to the Finals?
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];838840 said:
how many titles do they have? How many trips to the Finals?
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are you suggesting that they didn't make it to the finals because they weren't elite athletes? Or are you arguing that their lack of athleticism deems them as not the two best PGs of this era?

*confused*
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];838840 said:
how many titles do they have? How many trips to the Finals?
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So are you blaming Nash and Paul for not getting their respective teams to the Finals? Even if you are that still doesn't change the point of the comment. I'm not saying you can or can't win big with your non super athletic PG. I'm simply saying a guy doesn't have to be the biggest or most explosive to be considered to be at the top of that position.

If 5 years from now if Burke is the consensus best PG in the league will it matter that Nash or Paul never made the Finals?
 
homeytennis said:
Like Kanter he was recovering from an injury. A broken finger on a players shooting hand where a pin was placed can be kind of a big deal to a point guard.
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I think I remember reading that Trent's finger never fully healed and that it did cause some problems. He seems like a guy who won't let that stop him though.
 
GVC said:
No, he did not. Dude ranks 109th of 122 rookie guards who played 1000+ minutes since 1999/00 per basketball-reference.com: LINK
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Whoa
Ouch
 
jjscap said:
He is very underrated among Jazz fans lol. He will be an all-star in this league.
Funny how people say he can't shoot. He had above-average FG% for a rookie year. Not to mention he took those mid-court shots at the ends of quarters which hurt this FG%. Besides he got 90% FT ffs.
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GVC said:
No, he did not. Dude ranks 109th of 122 rookie guards who played 1000+ minutes since 1999/00 per basketball-reference.com: LINK
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GVC is checking your work people, step it up. You can't get away with throwing crap on the wall to see if it sticks any more.
 
homeytennis said:
Like Kanter he was recovering from an injury. A broken finger on a players shooting hand where a pin was placed can be kind of a big deal to a point guard.
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Trey is not going to be an All star. If he had never broken his finger he still would not become an All star. Curry did not make the All star team. Do you know what an All star is? Do yourself a favor and rank the starting pgs for all the teams in the WC. If you can rank TB anywhere near top 2, now or in the future, you are delusional.
 
heyhey said:
Trey is not going to be an All star. If he had never broken his finger he still would not become an All star. Curry did not make the All star team. Do you know what an All star is? Do yourself a favor and rank the starting pgs for all the teams in the WC. If you can rank TB anywhere near top 2, now or in the future, you are delusional.
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Agree. Trey may sniff the top-15 at some point; BEST case is he's at the bottom of the top-10. You could get away with that if your team had a Kobe or LeBron. But Utah - in the absence of a superstar - is going to need near all-star talent at every position. I don't hate Trey, I just think his ceiling isn't high enough for what Utah needs. That said, I'm not advocating trading him this instant. Jazz need to have a better replacement lined up for that to happen. Kind of like what NJ did by trading a package including Harris and Favors for Deron. Maybe one or two years down the road we can trade a couple of assets to improve a starting position, whether that be at PG or some other position.
 
akirac73 said:
I see him as a Derek Fisher type player, no overwhelming athletic ability, never great, never an elite point guard, never an all-star, but a serviceable role player and capable of hitting big shots. You still need players like this on a championship caliber team...
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Damn man. Just damn. I think Trey can definitely show better than that.
 
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