Triangle Offense???

[Darkwing Duck]

The choice of the offense is not nearly as important as the team buying into it, and the coach adjusting it to the team's abilities. The triangle is not inherently better than the Flex or the UCLA in that regard.

Very much this.

 

[Park Bites]

I think the triangle would be a good offense to try. One advantage is that it doesn't really require a powerhouse post player, and it accommodates all kinds of wing players. It is a good offense for developing a young big, Favors for example. And the claim that it requires a strong scoring guard is not accurate. It requires players that can hit an open shot from many places on the court, as it generates good spacing and makes it difficult for the defense to double team. One advantage that would be great for our team IMO is that it almost makes the players interchangeable. You can run it with a small lineup, a big lineup, whatever is out there, and it gives flexibility to take advantage of what the defense gives you. Really it can create mis-matches with multiple players during the same possession, so you have a wing player in the "point" position, then on the block, then on the wing. Hayward could start at the point, rotate down to the block, perhaps with a mis-match against a smaller guard, then out to the wing with maybe a big on him who couldn't defend him at the 3 pt line as well. I think where we don't have a dominant player at any position it would help us maximize these mis-matches. I would like to see us play it.

The big question would be, can Corbin actually teach and run the triangle. I would bet not. Even Jackson had to learn it over a couple seasons from Tex Winter, who was really a master of the offense.

Show me 1 team that has ever implemented the triangle and been successful without a stud scoring guard? The bulls after mj left the first time could not do it. It only works if you have a dynamic scorer. Hayward is not that.

 

[Harambe]

I remember everyone talking about how it usually takes 3-4 years to get to the point you execute it well. I'm not sure we've that much commitment from our players, nor am I sure they'll give Corbin that long to fail.

 

[sirkickyass]

The triangle offense is possibly the least effective band-aid solution imaginable.

To be honest, given our current roster strengths we'd probably be better off adopting elements of the T-Game offense when playing Millsap at the three as a way to combat our problems against zone defenses this year.

 

[Karadrys30]

The triangle works on spacing and ball movement to get open looks at the basket. You need a strong scorer that requires a doubleteam in order for it to work effectivly in the NBA. When you force the double by either driving the middle or getting the ball into the dominate big (shaq or Gasol) then the ball is quickly moved to the open man. This gets the defense out of possition and creates open looks. The triangle can be stopped if you can get really good on ball defenders on each player. That is why you have to have a really good scorer at least at the NBA level.

The Jazz offense is used to primarily create missmatches. The picks, rubs and cuts are used to try and either create space or force a switch. If you have space you can take an open shot. With a missmatch you exploit a size or quickness disparity. Both of them require familiarity with the system and with the players on your team. The Jazz offense can be stopped by staying with your man and anticipating passing lanes. The later is why the Jazz had problems with the lakers. Their length made it easier for them to close off passes. It also was hard to make a missmatch when you can put 3 fairly moble 7footers on the floor.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

The triangle works on spacing and ball movement to get open looks at the basket. You need a strong scorer that requires a doubleteam in order for it to work effectivly in the NBA. When you force the double by either driving the middle or getting the ball into the dominate big (shaq or Gasol) then the ball is quickly moved to the open man. This gets the defense out of possition and creates open looks. The triangle can be stopped if you can get really good on ball defenders on each player. That is why you have to have a really good scorer at least at the NBA level.

The Jazz offense is used to primarily create missmatches. The picks, rubs and cuts are used to try and either create space or force a switch. If you have space you can take an open shot. With a missmatch you exploit a size or quickness disparity. Both of them require familiarity with the system and with the players on your team. The Jazz offense can be stopped by staying with your man and anticipating passing lanes. The later is why the Jazz had problems with the lakers. Their length made it easier for them to close off passes. It also was hard to make a missmatch when you can put 3 fairly moble 7footers on the floor.

Well, the Jazz offense is designed to create open looks based off of options. The Lakers try to stop these options by blowing up the beginning of the play so it can't be run properly and hence no options can be run off it, forcing the Jazz into more one on one situations. This is why guys like Price would have good games, using athleticism to beat his man rather than the reliance on the system to get scoring chances. It's less efficient, which is why Jackson always does this against the Jazz. It's also why Williams' assists decreased and scoring increased against the Lakers.

 

[Karadrys30]

Actually, both offenses boil down to creating options. In both offenses those options cause the defense to make difficult choices and you react depending on how they decide to play.

 

[franklin]

Take a look at how Minnesota's been doing the last few seasons as they've tried to implement the triangle.

The triangle only works with Tex Winter at the controls and that dude is only interested in filling up depends nowadays.

As has been said not to many coaches who can teach the triangle. Phil might quit the Lakers after this season. Surely he would come to Utah to be a special assistant right?

There are only two people in the entire Western Hemisphere who can teach a triangle offense. Right.

 

[sepanol]

The triangle only works if you have a dynamic scoring guard.

lakers is the best example for triangle offense, and i dont think fisher is a dynamic scoring guard,i think we rather need a skilled big man like gasol for that, and favors and jefferson isnt suitable for triangle

 

[GVC]

lakers is the best example for triangle offense, and i dont think fisher is a dynamic scoring guard

Kobe?

 

[sepanol]

Kobe?

ahh damn it, i apologize from xthren, i took it like, scoring point guard
well , i think gordon hayward can do it, he is all around player, but still we need a skilled big man