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Trump abandons Kurdish allies to Turkish invasion



Cleaned out?

I’ve never heard of ethnic cleansing (genocide) described in such a way by an American president.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Ceasefire

That's gotta piss off those that wanted American blood spilled like Pelosi and some of you here.
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I preferred no blood spilled. American or not American. I'm sad for those who died

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fishonjazz said:
I preferred no blood spilled. American or not American. I'm sad for those who died

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100% but there's no reason for America to constantly police a situation that has been going on for decades upon decades. I mean, what has the USA accomplished besides making a terrible situation worse?

To me this is flat out warmongering. At one point I know most Democrats would agree. Obama ran off of needless wars and it's partially why I voted for him. Sadly he wasn't able to capitalize. While I understand abandoning our Allies is something to be frowned upon, at what point does any of this death and destruction end?

It doesn't, whether we intervene or not.
 
Yes, the US should not have ever been involved in the area. But we inserted ourselves and needed to deal with it as best we could. This was certainly not even close to the best way out. We have undone everything that has been accomplished in the past few years. Trump folded as he always does with strong leaders, but this time has caused irreparable harm to thousands. Pence had nothing to offer Turkey based on all the crap the president has been saying. This little ceasefire will do nothing to stop Turkey from doing whatever they want. They are already saying that what Trump is reporting is not what they agreed to. They are not going to give back the areas they have taken, the Kurds will still accept help from Assaud and Russia, and in five days it will continue on. Besides, the US doesn't speak on behalf of the Kurds (Trump has made that very clear lately), so there is no guarantee that the Kurds are going to accept these conditions anyway. Trump has played right into Turkey and Russia's hands, and he's too stupid to even know that.
 
JazzGal said:
Yes, the US should not have ever been involved in the area. But we inserted ourselves and needed to deal with it as best we could. This was certainly not even close to the best way out. We have undone everything that has been accomplished in the past few years. Trump folded as he always does with strong leaders, but this time has caused irreparable harm to thousands. Pence had nothing to offer Turkey based on all the crap the president has been saying. This little ceasefire will do nothing to stop Turkey from doing whatever they want. They are already saying that what Trump is reporting is not what they agreed to. They are not going to give back the areas they have taken, the Kurds will still accept help from Assaud and Russia, and in five days it will continue on. Besides, the US doesn't speak on behalf of the Kurds (Trump has made that very clear lately), so there is no guarantee that the Kurds are going to accept these conditions anyway. Trump has played right into Turkey and Russia's hands, and he's too stupid to even know that.
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Well as Trump said yesterday, "there's a lot of sand over there. A lot of sand they can play with."
 
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well, that 120 hr cease fire sure didn’t last long:





And to add insult to injury:



 
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