TURKEY-GERMANY : Nowitzki- Turkey

[sepanol]

When it comes to big games against longer players like Gasol or Bynum, I disagree. This is no different than Memo who held his ground well and tried to play good team d. But when push came to shove, he simply didn't have the ability to truly challenge the offensive player whether that meant blocking a shot, altering one, or gaining any type of psychological advantage in the match-up.

Kanter may be listed at 6'11 (without shoes) and he may rebound at a very good rate in the NBA. But he doesn't appear to have the lift or play tall to truly challenge the best in the league. Against heavy-footed guys like Kaman and maybe Bogut, he may be okay. Against Howard, Bynum, the Gasols, and maybe a few others, I'm not so sure. The bottom line though is he's 19 so if you're someone like me, why worry. We have the luxury of time and a stable of bigs, specifically Favors, who I believe can play truly big at the 5 if Kanter can't.

I agree Favors can be 5 and Kanter 4, but tell me who can defend Gasol, Howard ,Bynum without any problems. Also Kanter guarded Marc Gasol pretty well against Spain

 

[sepanol]

I don't think Memo has nearly as solid a base as Kanter. Add in the transition element, and the defensive comparison is just plain stupid.

i agree

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

I agree Favors can be 5 and Kanter 4, but tell me who can defend Gasol, Howard ,Bynum without any problems. Also Kanter guarded Marc Gasol pretty well against Spain

I don't. Gasol, when he got the ball, seemed to do what he wanted.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Memo is the worst help/team defending 5 that I can think of. Atrocious. What?

The ONLY thing Memo does well defensively is contain his matchup.

Yeah, I guess you're right. I guess I was high GVC. <shrugs> What do you want me to say? I haven't seen him in 17 months.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I don't. Gasol, when he got the ball, seemed to do what he wanted.

Gasol ate Kanter's lunch, but mostly on turnaround fade-aways if I remember right. In the second half in the paltry minutes that Kanter got in the second half, the matchup was much more even and Kanter looked a lot more comfortable.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Gasol ate Kanter's lunch, but mostly on turnaround fade-aways if I remember right. In the second half in the paltry minutes that Kanter got in the second half, the matchup was much more even and Kanter looked a lot more comfortable.

Agreed.

 

[sepanol]

I don't. Gasol, when he got the ball, seemed to do what he wanted.

You didnt watch other games of Spain then, so you cant compare how well he did what he want against Kanter and other players he played against

 

[aybars]

Enes Kanter highlights from germany game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadOQ0rBcz8

 

[sepanol]

Enes Kanter highlights from germany game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadOQ0rBcz8

he almost didnt make any rookie mistakes unlike other games

 

[aybars]

believe me,if he kept him in the game,he would have gotten 20/10.Ene is joke,and im afraid he aint going anywhere after the EC.

 

[spycam1]

I'm really liking his up and under move.

 

[aybars]

ok,this is from euro-forum;

Top 18, 19, 20, 21 years old performers of Eurobasket History (Since 1995 untill euro-championship 2011 day-10)


EUROBASKET - Top 18 years old performers

1. 1995 Marko Milic SLO 1977 9 P, 3 R, 3 A
2. 1999 Sani Becirovic SLO 1981 8 P, 2 R, 3 A
3. 2011 Devon Van Oostrum GRB 1993 1 P, 2 R, 3 A, 2 TO

EUROBASKET - Top 19 years old performers

1. 1999 Lubos Barton CZE 1980 19 P, 6 R, 2 A, 2 S, 2 TO
2. 1995 Mirsad Turkcan TUR 1976 8 P, 8 R
3. 2001 Tony Parker FRA 1982 9 P, 2 R, 2 A
4. 2011 Enes Kanter TUR 1992 9 P, 4 R
5. 2009 Ricky Rubio SPA 1990 6 P, 2 R, 4 A, 1 S
6. 2011 Jonas Valanciunas LTU 1992 10 P, 4 R, 3 TO
7. 1997 Josip Sesar CRO 1978 7 P, 2 A, 1 S
8. 1995 Efthymios Rentzias GRE 1976 6 P, 3 R
9. 2007 Stefan Markovic SER 1988 3 P, 2 R, 2 A, 2 S
10. 2005 Anton Ponkrashov RUS 1986 2 P, 2 R, 5 A, 2 TO, 2 S

EUROBASKET - Top 20 years old performers

1. 2001 Andrei Krilenko RUS 1981 19 P, 9 R, 3 A, 3 S, 3 B, 2 TO
2. 2001 Sani Becirovic SLO 1981 11 P, 5 R, 4 A, 2 S, 4 TO
3. 1997 Marko Milic SLO 1977 12 P, 3 R, 2 A, 2 S, 3 TO
4. 1999 Hidayet Turkoglu TUR 1979 12 P, 3 R, 1 S
5. 1999 Kerem Tunceri TUR 1979 7 P, 3 R, 5 A, 1 S
6. 1999 Matjaz Smodis SLO 1979 11 P, 4 R
7. 2003 Sergey Monya RUS 1983 12 P, 5 R, 2 TO
8. 2001 Antonis Fotsis GRE 1981 9 P, 4 R
9. 2003 Ender Arslan TUR 1983 8 P, 2 R, 2 A, 1 S
10. 2007 Milos Teodosic SER 1987 9 P, 2 R, 2 A

EUROBASKET - Top 21 years old performers

1. 1997 Radoslav Nesterovic SLO 1976 14 P, 9 R, 2 S
2. 2007 Andris Biedrins LAT 1986 15 P, 10 R, 1 B, 3 TO
3. 2001 Pau Gasol SPA 1980 17 P, 10 R, 2 B, 3 TO
4. 2003 Tony Parker FRA 1982 18 P, 3 R, 3 A, 2 S, 3 TO
5. 1997 Efthymios Rentzias GRE 1976 12 P, 4 R, 2 S
6. 2003 Victor Khryapa RUS 1982 10 P, 6 R, 2 A, 1 S, 2 TO
7. 2003 Marko Popovic CRO 1982 11 P, 3 R, 3 A
8. 1999 Dirk Nowitzki GER 1978 15 P, 3 R, 2 A, 3 TO
9. 2001 Juan Carlos Navarro SPA 1980 15 P, 3 A, 1 S, 2 TO
10. 1997 Mirsad Turkcan TUR 1976 9 P, 7 R, 2 S, 2 TO