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TURKEY-SPAIN : Revival of the Phoenix

write4u said:
After reading posts here, I started watching the games. Some observations: Turkey's coach or coaches are absolutely HORRIBLE. Kanter is already better than Omer Asik. Asik is tall and that's about it. Turkey is all about one-on-one play by the guards, led by Hedo who apparently has a swelled head.
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Asik was pretty big down the stretch vs. Spain.
 
asik's clean block on ibaka(which was called foul)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M95LLi_y8vw
 
aybars said:
asik's clean block on ibaka(which was called foul)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M95LLi_y8vw
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Yeah the block part is clean for sure but I think he touched his head with his blocking hand after the block, maybe thats what made ref call a foul. In NBA I doubt it would be called
 
AKMVP said:
Yeah the block part is clean for sure but I think he touched his head with his blocking hand after the block, maybe thats what made ref call a foul. In NBA I doubt it would be called
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Agree, the initial touch was clean, but then hit Ibaka's head and down across his neck. Foul was probably called due to the follow through that caused the contact.
 
AKMVP said:
Why do you hate Greece so much? Last time I saw them play vs Turkey in friendly Greece won easily and it was not even close. In my book Greece is better coached and plays better as a team then Turkey who has few big names but plays kind of ugly one on one style basketball. Slovenia may be not at the level of Spain but they certainly not worse then Serbia ( who have no big names either ), Lithuania or Germany. Euro basket is about team work, coaching and not always about stars.
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No i dont hate them, but greece doesnt have their best 2 guards, diamantidis and spanoulis so they have zero chance. And Turkey almost couldnt beat belgium and ukraine in friendly games, so that makes them good teams? Friendly games doesnt mean much. Serbia is much better than most of the teams in this tourney. I see them as the second most powerful title contender after Spain. Slovenia and Russia are good teams, but they are at Germany- Lithuania level. Turkey is unpredictable as always. We can either win the tourney or lose the 3 consequtive games, but when you look at the rosters, Turkey is on the same level as France, best squads after Spain.
 
AKMVP said:
Yeah the block part is clean for sure but I think he touched his head with his blocking hand after the block, maybe thats what made ref call a foul. In NBA I doubt it would be called
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i agree its a foul, too bad a very good block went into garbage
 
I thought blocks were suppose to be like tipped balls in the NFL? As long as you get all ball first, contact afterwards doesn't matter?
 
sepanol said:
but when you look at the rosters, Turkey is on the same level as France, best squads after Spain.
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Turkey definitely looked like they have more pure talent than Lithuania, but they choose to play so stupidly. That seems to be the back-breaker for Turkey, and it will almost certainly catch up with them again at some point before the tournament is over. As such, I'd say there are a number of teams with a better chance than Turkey of winning the whole thing (Spain, France, Lithuania, Serbia, maybe Russia and Slovenia).
 
NUMBERICA said:
And I'm the tough guy.
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Why don't you do what he's already done and find a way to get over it.

Wait a second... Verlin never gets over anything, does he. He digs and digs and digs and digs until he pisses people off. He says stuff he doesn't believe because he'd rather be annoying than have a discussion about actual opinions. And then once he gets under somebody's skin he insults them for getting upset about behavior on a message board. If you enjoy that act then Verlin is your man.
 
JJAS said:
I second the notion. I like his quip, "it's velvet!". All good commentators should have their own little sayings/style that identify them; that's what makes them recognizable above the rest. For example, it's not difficult to know who said this, "with a gentle push and a mild ark the cowhide globe hits home" or "hippity-hoppin' down the lane" and the patented "you gotta love it..."
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Chick Hearn?
 
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