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Utah gives homes to the homeless

I heard that this also saves the state money in the long run with savings coming thru in less medical treatments and policing actions.

So if it helps the homeless get back on their feet and is cost effective then I say it's a great program.
 
[size/HUGE] boobs [/size];971382 said:
It does not save money that is company line. It draws homeless to Utah we have 100 times as many to house now. 99% of Utah homeless are immigrants from neighbor states.
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Where is this info from? I'd love to see an analysis of the program, be it pro or con.
 
Where is gameface with the acculink
 
colton said:
Where is this info from? I'd love to see an analysis of the program, be it pro or con.
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There is no objective reporting in Utah we get what government agency provides then we give them more money based on there numbers.

Comprehensive annual report claims 12% immigrant but they provide zero data. I tell you this is not correct because they count citizen status year on year like in-state for tuition. Stay a while you are no longer immigrant. HUD requires PIT and CoC counts every year. From this you can find true number is in 90s percent.


What you think happens if you advertise free house free food free medical to transient (key word migrating) community? Word spreads fast
 
[size/HUGE] boobs [/size];972088 said:
There is no objective reporting in Utah we get what government agency provides then we give them more money based on there numbers.

Comprehensive annual report claims 12% immigrant but they provide zero data. I tell you this is not correct because they count citizen status year on year like in-state for tuition. Stay a while you are no longer immigrant. HUD requires PIT and CoC counts every year. From this you can find true number is in 90s percent.
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Some of that seems plausible, but what I was asking for is a link to someone who did the analysis you're talking about and arrived at that number. I'd like to read the specifics.
 
colton said:
Some of that seems plausible, but what I was asking for is a link to someone who did the analysis you're talking about and arrived at that number. I'd like to read the specifics.
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There is no study. Use census and common sense. From 1990 to 2000 California homeless declines 3000. Where do they go? Same time Utah homeless increases almost 50 %.
 
[size/HUGE] boobs [/size];974154 said:
There is no study. Use census and common sense. From 1990 to 2000 California homeless declines 3000. Where do they go? Same time Utah homeless increases almost 50 %.
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Where are you getting these numbers from? Also, this program only started in 2005. So how does it explain things that happened from 1990 to 2000.

Help me out here, I'm confused.
 
Put the homeless on a bus and wash your hands of them.

Nevada
https://www.sacbee.com/news/investigations/nevada-patient-busing/article2577189.html

San Diego
https://fox5sandiego.com/2014/10/14/one-way-bus-tickets-out-of-san-diego-for-the-homeless/

Sarasota,FL
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05/sarasota-homeless-bus_n_5766616.html

Montana
https://missoulian.com/news/local/individuals-groups-bus-homeless-to-other-cities-in-montana/article_05ecfaa0-259e-11e4-9b83-001a4bcf887a.html

New York City
https://gothamist.com/2014/09/07/de_blasio_carts_off_homeless.php

Colorado Springs
https://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/06/27/3454029/colorado-bus-homeless/

Hawaii
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/31/hawaii-lawmakers-to-buy-their-homeless-one-way-tickets-out-town/

Baton Rouge
https://www.wbrz.com/news/city-gives-10k-to-bus-homeless-out-of-town/

Portland
https://newstalk870.am/oregon-critics-question-homeless-relocation-program-people-given-one-way-bus-tickets-out-of-town/
 
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Is it possible to give a home to a homeless person? If receiving the offer is required for completion of the act of giving, then I say no. The instant a homeless person completes the act of being given a home - by receiving it - he/she is no longer homeless. Other thoughts? I can definitely see this going both ways.
 
colton said:
Where are you getting these numbers from? Also, this program only started in 2005. So how does it explain things that happened from 1990 to 2000.

Help me out here, I'm confused.
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Unfortunately I cannot. When you find better resources please lend to me.

As to you other question it is from Census for 2000. Published in 2001 even though I cannot give link. Google it should come up very fast.
 
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