Utah Jazz Players in the FIBA World Cup(in China)

[JazzForLifee]

Replace Rudy with Jokic, Towns, or these other bigs that are supposedly better than him... does France win?

**** no. Can you imagine them playing d? Lol so obvious Rudy is elite. He deserves more credit


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[NUMBERICA]

I’m worried about Joe more than anyone else. But it’s obviously been awesome to see our dudes getting so much shine.

I’ll fight you for the title of Most Worried About Joe. All this extra play isn’t a problem until he breaks down. They HAVE to find a way to make up rest and recovery for how he’s been played for the last two years.

 

[NAOS]

I’ll fight you for the title of Most Worried About Joe. All this extra play isn’t a problem until he breaks down. They HAVE to find a way to make up rest and recovery for how he’s been played for the last two years.

You can have Most Worried.

Some of my worry vanished when I saw how he’s been able to apply a lot of his newer passing skills with someone besides Derrick Favors. That’s been awesome to see, and I think it’s increased the odds that he’s able to parlay those skills with other jazzmen this season.

But this has certainly added to the amount of load management he will receive. No doubt. And the tournament isn’t over yet, so....

 

[NUMBERICA]

You can have Most Worried.

Some of my worry vanished when I saw how he’s been able to apply a lot of his newer passing skills with someone besides Derrick Favors. That’s been awesome to see, and I think it’s increased the odds that he’s able to parlay those skills with other jazzmen this season.

But this has certainly added to the amount of load management he will receive. No doubt. And the tournament isn’t over yet, so....

The stage is set for a Joe and Rudy rematch in the final which is kinda funny and awesome.

 

[NUMBERICA]

-Donovan was the only particularly effective player on team USA, dwarfed everyone else on the team in scoring and did it efficiently
-Gobert absolutely dominated. Game-high +/- and total production by a lot.
-Joe had a very classic performance: game-high +/- in a win.

This is gonna be a sick season.

 

[fishonjazz]

-Donovan was the only particularly effective player on team USA, dwarfed everyone else on the team in scoring and did it efficiently
-Gobert absolutely dominated. Game-high +/- and total production by a lot.
-Joe had a very classic performance: game-high +/- in a win.

This is gonna be a sick season.

This.
Can't wait

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[Handlogten's Heros]

-Donovan was the only particularly effective player on team USA, dwarfed everyone else on the team in scoring and did it efficiently
-Gobert absolutely dominated. Game-high +/- and total production by a lot.
-Joe had a very classic performance: game-high +/- in a win.

This is gonna be a sick season.

I just feel like we have the talent and the pieces fit well enough for us to win the title. These guys are fuggin competitors too... DM played the right way and didn’t force stuff... other guys kinda panicked and went into hero ball. Sounds cheesy as hell but Rudy just wants to win so bad and is willing to do all the stuff that gets the win even though it’s hard and not stuff that gets noticed. DMs defense has been much better in FIBA than during the season... Joe is Joe, can score 5-7 points in a game and be one of the key players and doesn’t give an eff if he scores 5 or 25. I just think they are willing to do what it takes.

I can’t wait for the season to start. I may find a sports book and lay some cash on the Jazz to win it all this year.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I just feel like we have the talent and the pieces fit well enough for us to win the title. These guys are fuggin competitors too... DM played the right way and didn’t force stuff... other guys kinda panicked and went into hero ball. Sounds cheesy as hell but Rudy just wants to win so bad and is willing to do all the stuff that gets the win even though it’s hard and not stuff that gets noticed. DMs defense has been much better in FIBA than during the season... Joe is Joe, can score 5-7 points in a game and be one of the key players and doesn’t give an eff if he scores 5 or 25. I just think they are willing to do what it takes.

I can’t wait for the season to start. I may find a sports book and lay some cash on the Jazz to win it all this year.

By the way:
What does it say about GOBERT - the real DPOY every year since 2015 - that the most offensively-gifted team in the world suddenly couldn't ****ing score?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

By the way:
What does it say about GOBERT - the real DPOY every year since 2015 - that the most offensively-gifted team in the world suddenly couldn't ****ing score?

He dominated them offensively too... we may not know his full value. He provides enormously efficient scoring on limited attempts but also does it without the ball. We haven’t had the personnel to completely take advantage of what he does yet... I think this is the start of mainstream NBA understanding how good he is. Seen some other articles and feel like analytics and nba experts get it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

By the way:
What does it say about GOBERT - the real DPOY every year since 2015 - that the most offensively-gifted team in the world suddenly couldn't ****ing score?

Another narrative I’ve hated on the guy past few years is... all you have to do is spread them out and make him guard on the perimeter and you take him out the game... then they cite Curry turning him around in the playoffs 3 years ago... when he had just come back from a knee injury... or they cite the Rockets series (where the defense ain’t the problem).

Hopefully he starts getting his due respect.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I'm not asking Gobert to become Hakeem or Shaq, but I am encouraged that France seems to be cognizant of when he has a theoretical advantage in the post and that Gobert seems to be capitalizing on them. In the context of advantage basketball, Gobert being able to exploit a mismatch on a quick strike in the post exemplifies that philosophy (especially since he should be able to tip-in his own misses against guards with some reliability).

 

[NUMBERICA]

Another narrative I’ve hated on the guy past few years is... all you have to do is spread them out and make him guard on the perimeter and you take him out the game... then they cite Curry turning him around in the playoffs 3 years ago... when he had just come back from a knee injury... or they cite the Rockets series (where the defense ain’t the problem).

Hopefully he starts getting his due respect.

Well the data is already there when the Jazz had Ricky Rubio (a player Rudy never developed great chemistry with and clogged the lane) and a fringe stretch-4* for a two-year sample size (not to mention '16-'17**). Derrick Favors is a damn fine player, but their overlapping shortcomings were killing this team and the lineup data painted a jaw-dropping picture that I'd have to look up to give the proper figures, but I feel like it was like 10 points per 100 possessions better with Gobert and without Favors.

We're replacing Favors** (who destroyed Gobert's room), Jerebko* (who was a stiff), Crowder* (who is 6-6), Thabo* (who is ancient and not a big), and Joe Johnson** (who couldn't guard anyone) with:
Bogdanovic, Royce, Jeff Green, and Ingles. Not to mention Mike Conley instead of Ricky. Holy smokes.