I definitely think we should allow him to use his faceup game, and if it leads to some tough middies that's ok. But his decision tree is basically "if I can get the shot off, I take it". He's so talented he can always get to that shot and he will always take it. If we can get it in his head to at least try to attack to hoop and not settle it can work. Also, he should really just shoot more 3's of all kinds. He's a good movement shooter and he's got to be an all time leader in OTD shots 1 foot in front of the line.
Utah Jazz Select Ace Bailey, Pick 5
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I definitely think we should allow him to use his faceup game, and if it leads to some tough middies that's ok. But his decision tree is basically "if I can get the shot off, I take it". He's so talented he can always get to that shot and he will always take it. If we can get it in his head to at least try to attack to hoop and not settle it can work. Also, he should really just shoot more 3's of all kinds. He's a good movement shooter and he's got to be an all time leader in OTD shots 1 foot in front of the line.
Basketball Novice
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This is interesting! Let's see how far this agent wants to go with this, because Ace is lock in with us unless he wants to sit out a year and try the next draft.
Maybe if we promise Omar we will sign his son a two way he will be a good guy and play ball with the Jazz on the contract signing.
jom2003
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Simple. Give him the ball and let him cook. That's what he always wanted. Definitely more fundamentally sound on the ball than both Jabari Smith and MPJ. Would be a huge waste of his talent if we make him stand in the corner. Even if he doesn't pan out, his volatility would at least be somewhat fun to watch and help us secure another year of tank for a shot at AJ/Peterson/Booz in 2026.
He needs to learn how to impact or drive winning. And one big impediment to that could be the "let him cook" idea.
Another one could be if he continues to listen to this assclown that's representing him.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIOXQlE1rgU
Givony says the Ace/Utah saga isnt over, there is more to come. Oh god.
Basketball Novice
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It's a bad thing but maybe not a bad thing. If yall don't mind me psychoanalyzing a bit: His agent is just dumb but Ace himself hired the guy because he knows him and is a family friend (I think? I need to look into it more). That tells me that Ace values personal relationships and is a loyal guy, even if the person (his agent) is making some questionable decisions on his behalf. If Ace gets to the point where he feels like Utah is his home/where he wants to play, he could be a 1 franchise kind of guy.
seattlejazzfan
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doesn't utah hold his rights for longer than that? is it seriously just a year and you go back into the draft? that doesn't seem right, but it never happens, so who knows.
seattlejazzfan
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oh good hell. hopefully his knowledge of Ace and the Jazz is about as accurate as his prediction that the jazz would draft fears.
Basketball Novice
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Thats the info I got off a quick google search. It did seem weird to me, if someone else could confirm how exactly draft rights work?
Nope, just a year.
Dude, when you have generational wealth that needs to be secured, and a career that needs to be put on the right path, you don't just start mixing in family and friends because of loyalty. This is ****ing obvious.
Basketball Novice
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Some people do mix those things. It's not the smart move but it happens. I don't blame Ace for not being jaded at 18 when it comes to how people can take advantage of him.
My whole point is that it's not a smart move. And that it's not a good look. And I do blame Ace, because he's been hearing about better options (time- and industry-tested) for years now.
gomretat
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Drafting him based upon what his camp had said was a high risk high reward move. IF you believe he is the best talent, you take the risk and hope he shows up. What you also hope for is that it stays quiet enough that we dont have to fire sale him before he ever plays.
seattlejazzfan
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after saying it isn't over and there is more to come, they went back to him, and he says they are still going back and forth and thinks that ultimately it will be settled and ace will sign.