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Utah Jazz Select Ace Bailey, Pick 5

TMac was good immediately. He didn't get many minutes, but even at 18 years old he was a good player. His BPM at age 19 was 4.1. Ridiculously good teenager.
 
Bodhi said:
Your version of TMac is after he became what he became. Ace's skill set today is as good or better than TMac's coming into the draft in '97.
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Yes, that is standardly how NBA comps work, folks compare them to who they could be in the NBA.

And don't pretend you remember TMac as a prospect. Nobody here knows anything about what TMac looked like as a prospect in the mid 90s, even NBA teams could barely scout high schoolers at that point. Fans only had 2nd/3rd hand reports, 99% had never seen Tracy McGrady play a single game before he was drafted.
 
Eminence said:
Yes, that is standardly how NBA comps work, folks compare them to who they could be in the NBA.

And don't pretend you remember TMac as a prospect. Nobody here knows anything about what TMac looked like as a prospect in the mid 90s, even NBA teams could barely scout high schoolers at that point. Fans only had 2nd/3rd hand reports, 99% had never seen Tracy McGrady play a single game before he was drafted.
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We can look at how Tmac played as a teenager.....sheesh. He was so good. TOR didn't know what they had and it showed immediately once he left.
 
KqWIN said:
Usually I'm not one to say these kind of things, but I do think we need to invest in a veteran that Ace respects and have them in the locker room. Even if it's just someone like Jeff Green or Joe Ingles.
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Yeah but once you start doing things that “appears” to “manage” him, that’s a slippery slope.

You don't want to “appear” give him special treatment in any way .
 
KqWIN said:
Usually I'm not one to say these kind of things, but I do think we need to invest in a veteran that Ace respects and have them in the locker room. Even if it's just someone like Jeff Green or Joe Ingles.
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I think going and getting solid locker room vets (even if they’re just being discarded by their current team because they’re physically cooked) is always a good plan - if you have the roster spots.

Who can the Jazz go get that will be like Drew Eubanks or Patty Mills last year. I actually think Sexton could be a guy that he gravitates to.
 
Eminence said:
Yes, that is standardly how NBA comps work, folks compare them to who they could be in the NBA.

And don't pretend you remember TMac as a prospect. Nobody here knows anything about what TMac looked like as a prospect in the mid 90s, even NBA teams could barely scout high schoolers at that point. Fans only had 2nd/3rd hand reports, 99% had never seen Tracy McGrady play a single game before he was drafted.
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Totally
 
KqWIN said:
Usually I'm not one to say these kind of things, but I do think we need to invest in a veteran that Ace respects and have them in the locker room. Even if it's just someone like Jeff Green or Joe Ingles.
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Maybe Clayton Jr
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
For us old farts... the Jazz took Deron Williams over Chris Paul because Deron came in a suit and Chris Paul didnt really want to be here. Bad basketball decision. And at the end of the day, Deron diva'd his way out of Utah anyways.

You pick the BPA everything and that is just what we did.
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Nah. Williams was a great pick, even if it blew up in the end. I think his bruising style complimented Sloan's system more than Paul would have and at the end of the day, the gap wasn't so big that Utah wins anything more with Paul than Williams.

Paul would have likely left Utah too, tho maybe on better terms and probably wouldn't have gotten any further in the playoffs than DWill did, especially knowing his playoff track record over the years.
 
I didn’t watch Rutgers, or hardly anybody, this year, so I’m missing a lot of context.

Bailey’s first half of the season, statistically, was really good. Second half, abysmal. I don’t know if it was conditioning, immaturity, shots just not falling, regressing to the mean, or what, but if he can consistently play like he did at the beginning, he’s gonna be real good.

First 19 games he shot 48/41/67 while averaging 21/8.

Last 11 games he shot 41/18/74 while averaging 12/6.

Again, I don’t know the particulars of why the regression, but it was drastic.
 
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