Dont think anyone is saying they are bad. Everyone recognizes their talent. We shouldn't be blown out by anyone that badly though.
Utah Jazz vs Timber Pups Game Thread (7pm)
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Dont think anyone is saying they are bad. Everyone recognizes their talent. We shouldn't be blown out by anyone that badly though.
lmao, you are such a clown sometimes. Lebron was maligned repeatedly before he won a ring for his "lack of killer attitude". It's a ****ing narrative people use to place blame on players who arent hero-ball ballhogs in the final minutes of games.
Not passing the ball on a possession and chucking a 3 as a below 30% 3pt shooter is awful.
If Hill did it, it would still not be a great possession, but the fact is that he shoots it above 40% (or did last time I checked).
Dont be a whiny bitch. That was a terrible god awful possession and it should be treated as such. Dante isn't Damian Lillard, I don't want to see him taking those shots in that manner.
And he is a 28% 3pt shooter. They are going under the screen for a reason, it's because they know he has next to no shot hitting off the dribble 3's.
SoUjazzfan
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Wow, I didn't know we were allowed to use facts and rational thinking on the forum.
I really like Thibodeau and see the t-wolves making something with this team if they can keep the core together.
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3438/george-hill
Yeah dude, those February stats for George Hill are ****ing horrendous. Great analysis.
The one thing about Lyles is that I do feel really bad for his career path. He was asked to play out of position at UK and now he is kind of asked to play something outside of his natural strength in Utah. That being said, he does have horrendous body language, which is weird because he is one of the more positive and physically expressive sideline players on the team.
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Also Kobe Bryant the king of all hero-ball ball hogs has a crazy low percentage of game winner makes in his career. I think Jordans is low too. If I recall their rates hover in the 20%'s.
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Nah, Jordan's was actually pretty high on buzzer beating game winners, like right at 50% or near it.
Kobe's was super low though, like 20%
IDK about Jordan's percentage on clutch shots in general though, like under 24 seconds within 1 possession either way. Whenever I google it all I find is buzzer beating game winners.
Hayward I know has 2 buzzer-beating game winners. Not sure how many he has attempted.
SoUjazzfan
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Like everyone last night, I was pissed at the performance (or lack thereof). As I thought about it this morning I came to this conclusion. In retrospect I've been in enough situations in life where I just absolutely choked, and not just in sports that it's unbelieveable. It's happened at work and also in my personal life. You can't dwell on it. You reset, dig in and try to learn from it and come out stronger on the other end. I'm hoping that's what happens here. This could be a pivotal point for the team. I'm interested to see how it goes Friday. I'm betting on a good bounce back.
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Yeah guess it's kinda a dumb point, comparing %s in the last two minutes or whatever is a better argument. Guess my point being I've never seen anyone consider someone like Kobe not clutch or known to take over games but he's also shot his team out of just as many close games as he's kept or won them for his team. Being a ball dominant player isn't always the answer and playing within the offense to get highest % overall is the smartest approach and I think guys like Hayward take that approach much like LeBron. Lots of people see them as hiding away from the moment but in most cases theyre executing what's the most probable scheme to get their team back in it or running a play that gives them highest % last second shot
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