Utah Trade Deadline Discussion

[David Stern]

Rodney is pure class. Love that guy, even if he's not on our team moving forward.

 

[fishonjazz]

Because you typically lack objectivity and logic.

Some examples?

In this particular discussion I brought thabo age and injury as a reason why it might be an ok thing to trade him.
Then a couple posts later you posted something similar.

 

[infection]

Not following.

Favors is hard to move and get fair value back. The Jazz dont want to give away a starter for a 2nd round pick.

Udoh on the other hand, is a rotation player who cant play when the team is fully healthy (37 minutes in 9 games since Gobert's return juts cuz of blowouts mostly). So you can move him for a 2nd and it feels better because he was a cheap pickup. It feels like a good flip job. Plus he plays the same position as a guy you traded up for in the first round to get, who is killing it in the G-League. You need to open up minutes for him.

I think Udoh is better than Favors and I think, as a team, we'd perform better if Udoh had more minutes. I think we play Favors over him because of history and I think the idea that we play Bradley over him "because we used a first rounder on him" is equally flawed. Remember, you were on the arguing end of using Mack above Exum because you thought Mack was playing better, so I think playing Udoh over Bradley, unless Bradley takes that spot away from him, is quite reasonable.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Paying $17Mil/yr for Fournier are the moves that have you in perpetual rebuilds.

Im arguing the opposite if you cared to read.

No half measures.

I read just fine. You just said being able to take on trash on bad contracts to acquire draft picks was more important to you than having a good, contributing player. That's rebuild 101.

Getting a good player worthy of their salary and probably wants to be here is not a half-measure.

 

[elan_prodigy]

2019 is a glaring obvious FA target date for the Jazz. Jazz could even reap the benefits of a tight 2018 FA money pool AND still strike in 2019.

Obvious to some...

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Not following.

Favors is hard to move and get fair value back. The Jazz dont want to give away a starter for a 2nd round pick.

Udoh on the other hand, is a rotation player who cant play when the team is fully healthy (37 minutes in 9 games since Gobert's return juts cuz of blowouts mostly). So you can move him for a 2nd and it feels better because he was a cheap pickup. It feels like a good flip job. Plus he plays the same position as a guy you traded up for in the first round to get, who is killing it in the G-League. You need to open up minutes for him.

I agree with Cy here... could see Udoh moved. I've said a few times that I though Udoh is a better fit in Cleveland than Favs (better rim protection and zero ego so you can bring him off the bench).

The contract options and matching is also easier. I also think if you plan on Bradley being a meaningful contributor on his rookie deal he needs to have a clear path to minutes next year.

Hood Udoh for Osman/Rose and their FRP... we cut Rose obvi. Could also see Frye and FRP for Hood and Udoh... if the Hill deal falls through.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Tony Jones says as many as 15 teams have called about Hood... seems short by about 14. I think his market is much wider than the few that were reported.

 

[The Midnight]

Tony Jones says as many as 15 teams have called about Hood... seems short by about 14. I think his market is much wider than the few that were reported.

Depends how serious those calls are though. I'd suspect most of those calls were cheeky calls like "we'll off you 2 second rounders" type calls.

 

[Jazzta]

Tony Jones says as many as 15 teams have called about Hood... seems short by about 14. I think his market is much wider than the few that were reported.

I feel like we may be giving up on him too early if traded, but let's see what comes out of it all. There's still some time left.

 

[The Midnight]

I feel like we may be giving up on him too early if traded, but let's see what comes out of it all. There's still some time left.

If nothing else he's just too fragile and injury prone for me. I'd rather have someone who can play 82 games a season and a better defender (but a weaker shooter) than someone like Hood who I can't depend on, and have to change my lineup on a nightly basis due to injury.

 

[Quin's Murderface]

If the Jazz are serious about moving Hood you have to think he'll be held out tonight. With his injury history it's a big risk to let him play. He's about due for an ankle tweak.

 

[Jazzta]

If nothing else he's just too fragile and injury prone for me. I'd rather have someone who can play 82 games a season and a better defender (but a weaker shooter) than someone like Hood who I can't depend on, and have to change my lineup on a nightly basis.

He has a full summer ahead of him to work on his body. By the way Woj has been very quiet for what he's got us used to.