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Utah's Illegal Immigrant List

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The Thriller said:
Why not create and distribute a list of companies that are hiring illegal immigrants? Why a list of men, pregnant women, and children? Instead of making threatening phone calls, how about we boycott those businesses, demand that laws be enforced, and basically force businesses to abide by the law?
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I think it's time to start thinking outside the box.

Rather than looking at this as a problem that needs a solution, why don't we try to capitalize on it? I think the Utah Jazz may be able to finally get an edge on the rest of the league. Can you imagine if we were the only team in the league to welcome illegals from across the border? When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.


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Every state should have people willing to put a list like this out. Just awesome..Only problem is now they all should be deported until done legally.
 
https://missoulian.com/news/national/article_cd33c647-5cc4-54a3-9da3-b109920a2c8d.html

Utah identifies 2 allegedly behind immigrant list

Utah officials said Friday they have identified at least two state workers who apparently accessed confidential documents to create a list of 1,300 purported illegal immigrants that was mailed to law enforcement officials and the news media.
Gov. Gary Herbert said the employees work for the Department of Workforce Services, which administers food stamp programs and other public benefits. The employees have been placed on administrative leave.
"It's a very small group. The people we've identified certainly have some strong political opinions and seem to be frustrated with some of the issues around immigration," said Kristen Cox, executive director for the department. "I think it's an immense hypocrisy to talk about taking people to task for being illegal and doing so by breaking the law."
Newspapers started receiving the list of names and personal information this week, and its publicity created widespread fear in the Hispanic community. The anonymous mailing said it also was sent to immigration officials. It demanded that those on the list be deported, although some named have said they are in the country legally.
"This tactic by these rogue employees to go out and to single out individuals and their families, in some case falsely accusing people of an illegal status, is in fact deplorable," Herbert said.
Cox said there may be a few more people implicated in the leak of the names, but she's confident that the core group that is responsible has been identified.
Hispanic advocates applauded how quickly the state acted to find the source of the leak and to assure the community that state policy doesn't allow for just anyone to access private information.
"The governor took the first step today to bring that trust back again," said Tony Yapias, former director of the Office of Hispanic Affairs.
Intentionally releasing a private record in Utah is a misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail and a $1,000 fine. If someone stole such a record, it could be prosecuted as a felony with a penalty punishable by up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine.
"We will begin an immediate, aggressive, formal investigation," Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff promised Friday on a conference call with national and local Hispanic leaders.
Herbert said accessing the private information and distributing it to federal immigration authorities is also a violation of federal law. Shurtleff said he would seek the help of the U.S. attorney's office.
"We're talking serious, felony-level crimes," Shurtleff said.
The list contains Social Security numbers, birth dates, workplaces, addresses and phone numbers. Names of children are included, along with due dates of pregnant women.
Cox said most of the people on the list are there because their children are receiving benefits.
Herbert said there are two benefits administered by the state _ food stamps and prenatal care _ that would provide information that could indicate someone is in the country illegally. The state keeps records of the relatives of those receiving benefits because it has to know what each person's household income is before benefits are issued.
Officials continued investigating the list Friday even though state employees usually have the day off as part of the state's four-day workweek to cut energy costs.
The investigation comes as Herbert, a Republican, prepares to host a public immigration summit Tuesday. Herbert has said he will sign an immigration bill into law next year if he's still in office, but it's unclear how closely that bill might mirror one lawmakers recently passed in Arizona.
Arizona's law, which takes effect July 29, directs police enforcing other laws to determine a suspect's immigration status if there is reason to believe the person is in the U.S. illegally. The Obama administration has sued Arizona to throw out the law and keep other states from copying it.
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Wouldn't it be sweet if they published the names, addresses, and private information of these criminals? Not only in English, but in Spanish as well.
 
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It seems everyone is taking for granted that the problem is that people are here illegally and that our immigrations system is proper, just needs to be enforced better. I wonder how/why many of you came to that conclusion? That's not the conclusion I've come to, at all.
 
I think it is an all out approach. Penalizing businesses that hire illegals, securing the border, but also making legal immigration easier. It wouldn't be such a problem if a lot of these illegals weren't getting free rides. Health Care being a big one. Anyway, JMO.
 
First, with the trillions of dollars spent accross the world you would think we could have spent a few hundred million and built a quality fence with checkpoints that would have solved the issue of harmful illegal immigration years ago. I realize this is a huge undertaking, however, with the amount of money we have committed to Iraq and Afganistan and the aid we have sent all over the world if we spent a fraction on this we would be able to pull it off.

Second, my fence comment aside, I think there is such a thing as harmful illegal immigration and unharmful illegal immigration. If someone comes to this country, obeys the rules, pays taxes, maintains health, car and other beneficial insurance, acts in responsible manner both in terms of behavior and finanically, and in general is not a drain on society I don't care where they are from, they are welcome here. In fact, I think they are an asset. In terms of harmfull illegal immigration, those that break the law, don't maintain health insurance and are a drain on society, I support deportation for those.

There is a solution for harmful illegal immigration. First, secure the borders. Second, create a guest worker program where they are given an orienation and continued training regarding what it takes to be a productive member of society. Create a registry for guest workers and mandate that they renew their "Guest Worker License" every year. If they break the law they get deported. If they don't maintain health and car insurance they get huge fines, etc. This would provide a way to manage the challenges that illegal immigration creates which is namely the drain on government and society resources if the people don't pay taxes and maintain insurance etc.

I also find it quite ironic that many of the people are acting in such an aggressive manner towards illegal aliens would consider Ronald Reagan to be a great president and in some cases a "hero". If they did some research they would find that Reagan actually had some very progressive policies and if I'm not mistaken (and I'm not) actually granted amnesty in 1986 to illegal immigrants.
 
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