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jimmy eat jazz said:
I find it ironically humorous that the good LDS folks in Utah support Cruz so strongly. A people who make as much as they do (and rightly so, I might add) about the religious persecution they experienced early on in their history now supporting en masse a man whose bigotry against another religious group (Muslims) is so plainly manifest, e.g., Cruz has now proposed 'locking down' Muslim neighborhoods in the wake of Brussels. So, what does this mean? Religious persecution, gross negative stereotyping, punishing the whole for the 'sins' of the few, trafficking in hateful messages are ok, as long as it's some other religious group? I'm curious how our good LDS friends here explain this. (Keep in mind, claims of the threat Muslims present to this country are similar in tone, if not specific content, of the things the good folks in Missouri were saying about Mormons back in the day.)

Second, for those of you LDS who support Cruz, you do realize that his main constituency is the Christian evangelicals/fundamentalists who hate Mormons almost as much as they hate gays and atheists, don't you? (To them, Mormons will be sharing the same fiery pit as gays and atheists and other 'sinners.') In the earthly theocratic state of Cruz's dominionist wet dreams, how well do you think Mormons would fare?

Now, Cruz and his ilk don't have the power to implement all their dominionist plans, thank you Rule of Law, but they WILL work to chip away incrementally at the separation of Church and State however and wherever they can. (I invite you to read up a bit on dominionism and Cruz's very tight links to it.) How comfortable are you with this, and with this man and his allies in control (or partial control) of the levers of power in this country?
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Benson told Mormons to vote republican, so they do.

Obedience.
 
Who has a better chance of beating trump in the presidential election out of Hillary or Sanders?
 
fishonjazz said:
Who has a better chance of beating trump in the presidential election out of Hillary or Sanders?
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Both will win but Sanders would do better. He energizes people to vote. Polls and trends suggest that Sanders might even carry Utah.
 
fishonjazz said:
Who has a better chance of beating trump in the presidential election out of Hillary or Sanders?
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I saw a poll this morning suggesting Kasich would beat Clinton by about 4 percentage points in a general election.....

The only one of the three who comes out ahead of Clinton, and the guy with the least delegates so far. With no chance of winning the nomination outright. A brokered convention would be some kind of political theater....
 
fishonjazz said:
Who has a better chance of beating trump in the presidential election out of Hillary or Sanders?
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I believe a race between Hillary and Trump would bring some SHADY business dealings to light.
More likely that Trump beats Hillary than Bern, imo.


They all suck so bad though it would be depressing if I cared.
 
Red said:
I saw a poll this morning suggesting Kasich would beat Clinton by about 4 percentage points in a general election.....

The only one of the three who comes out ahead of Clinton, and the guy with the least delegates so far. With no chance of winning the nomination outright. A brokered convention would be some kind of political theater....
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He also beats Sanders in the new polls.
 
I did like that Sanders didn't go to the Jewish state love fest that the AIPAC convention represents after being invited to give a speech there. Instead he held an interview on CNN where he said that the state of Israel has done some very bad things and that we should have a balanced approach in the Israel-Palestine conflict, rather than giving a blindfolded 100% support to the hypocritical state of Israel. Bravo Bernie on that one, bravo.
 
Aside from kasich, the repubelicans are so bad that anyone would be better.

I really wish bloomberg would have run in the democratic ticket.
 
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