Vote for Bernie today

[Jamezz]

There are 2 cities in Northern Africa (Morocco) that are Spanish territory. And well, this is what we're looking at:

In Ceuta:

In Melilla:

It's a big problem, most come from Central Africa but Morocco doesn't do anything about it and sends them to risk their lives to get into Ceuta and Melilla.

 

[fishonjazz]

So, A guy at work, who happens to be conservative, asks me why young people find Bernie to be an attractive (man) candidate. There are obvious answers like he says he'll do this and that. But, presidential hopefuls make ridic promises all the time.

So, what exactly is it that makes Bernie different? It's hard to put my finger on it, but, it feels like HRC, Drumpf, Cruz and whoever else just want to be POTUS just because. Like they want to stroke their own ego. They're not in it because they're fighting for something specific to fix a problem that they see in the US. They're like: "I want to be the most powerful person in the world" and then they formulate their platform to attain that goal. Whereas, and call me naive if you want to, Bernie doesn't want to be president for it's own sake. He has an ideology and a set of problems that he sees need to be addressed, and, surprise, a majority of Americans actually agree with him. Therefore, Let's run for president and get it done.

I agree with this.
I can't see any of the other presidential candidates getting arrested at a civil rights protest.

 

[b_line]

There are 2 cities in Northern Africa (Morocco) that are Spanish territory. And well, this is what we're looking at:

In Ceuta:

In Melilla:

It's a big problem, most come from Central Africa but Morocco doesn't do anything about it and sends them to risk their lives to get into Ceuta and Melilla.

Oh ****. They figured out how to climb. Must be more evolved than Mexicans who font know how to get over a wall.

 

[JazzGal]

So, A guy at work, who happens to be conservative, asks me why young people find Bernie to be an attractive (man) candidate. There are obvious answers like he says he'll do this and that. But, presidential hopefuls make ridic promises all the time.

So, what exactly is it that makes Bernie different? It's hard to put my finger on it, but, it feels like HRC, Drumpf, Cruz and whoever else just want to be POTUS just because. Like they want to stroke their own ego. They're not in it because they're fighting for something specific to fix a problem that they see in the US. They're like: "I want to be the most powerful person in the world" and then they formulate their platform to attain that goal. Whereas, and call me naive if you want to, Bernie doesn't want to be president for it's own sake. He has an ideology and a set of problems that he sees need to be addressed, and, surprise, a majority of Americans actually agree with him. Therefore, Let's run for president and get it done.

That's why I like him. He seems to actually care about all the people in the country, and the world for that matter. He believes what he says, which I'm not convinced the others always do.

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[Stoked]

From my point of view Sanders is by far the most sincere and honest candidate. The other 3 big names don't even come close.

 

[Miggs]

Most poor people work harder than you do. It's 11 am on a Thursday and you are spending your time on an internet message board.

I wasn't referring to the poor who work. I was talking about those who don't do **** other than suck off the gov't teet. And my point was a very fair one. Dala has his angry little fist pumping in the air for the poor, I guess because, according to him, rich people have tax loopholes and in turn, get all the breaks? I'm not sure exactly if his beef is personal or corporate but that's neither here nor there. My retort was that much of the poor gets **** for free. So why the inequitable response?

Also, fwiw, from what I can find, 68B was given from 2000-2015 in federal grants and tax credits to companies. In 2014 alone, we spent an estimated 212B on what we think of typically as welfare. A January 12, 2014 Washinton Post article stated, "As Michael Linden of Center for American Progress told me, there are five big programs in the Cato list that are most analogous to what people think of as “welfare”: The refundable part of the Earned Income Tax Credit ($55 billion), Temporary Assistance for Needy Families ($21 billion), Supplemental Security Income ($43.7 billion), food stamps ($75 billion), and housing vouchers ($18 billion) and the Child Tax Credit. All together, that’s around $212 billion dollars."

Don't get me wrong. I have no problem having our country assist those who need it. Those who do everything in their power to work hard and provide and so forth. But let's call a spade a spade. We give a **** ton of free stuff to those who in theory, didn't earn it.

I'm not saying the corporations did. That's a whole 'nother discussion. But to sit here and pretend that poor people don't get a **** ton of free **** is being disengenuous.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

From my point of view Sanders is by far the most sincere and honest candidate. The other 3 big names don't even come close.

I agree that he's far more sincere than Trump or Clinton. Kasich seems very sincere to me as well. Sanders is also the most fantasy land candidate. Sincerity alone just doesn't cut it. If everyone gets in the wagon there won't be anyone left to pull.

 

[Stoked]

My main problem is that to make these programs work, some are actually good ideas, they need more of my money or so they say.

yeah, let me rush on out to throw more money down that rabbit hole. Go ahead and wait for that.

 

[JazzGal]

If everyone gets in the wagon there won't be anyone left to pull.

This is a comment that I just don't understand. I am not willing to give up working so that I can get the measly amounts of money that the government could provide. I don't want to live on poverty level money. I don't know people that want to do that unless they have no choice. Why do people seem to believe that government assistance is making anyone wealthy (or even moderately comfortable)?

I would prefer my tax money be spent to help others who need help than much of what my tax money is spent on. Helping others is what makes me feel connected to the world. Denying people help just because a small percentage might take advantage is heartless.

I believe that helping the poor and needy among us raises us all up.

 

[Eminence]

I know many who view socialism as an opportunity to better help pull the wagon, rather than a chance to hop in.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Speaking of welfare and food stamps, some NFL player (Landon Collins) told one of his side chicks he wouldn't pay for his kids stuff, and to go on food stamps bc it's free stuff from the government. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad. Little bit of smarts goes a long ways.

 

[Stoked]

I know many who view socialism as an opportunity to better help pull the wagon, rather than a chance to hop in.

And I'd be more open to their financial and tax arguments if I felt there was decent fiscal responsibility and transparency. There is not. So I have no faith, none, that me giving them more of my money will accomplish any of the things they say they will.