Well in the "documentary" 2000 mules there were out of context videos of people putting bundles of ballots into drop boxes. So... like what don't you get?
Voter Suppression and Why The Republicans Love It So Much?
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Well in the "documentary" 2000 mules there were out of context videos of people putting bundles of ballots into drop boxes. So... like what don't you get?
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Hahaha. To which Bill Barr said this:
View: https://youtu.be/Nz6smxo-MkE
I mean… I don’t get it. I seriously don’t ****ing get it. We have state legislatures, like Utah’s, that have added restrictions in response to 2020. Why? Other than for “********” reasons, I haven’t seen any legitimate reason. We now have judges knocking down drop box voting. Their concerns aren’t legitimate. They have no reason to fear this method of voting. Especially since, if it’s leading to hundreds of illegitimate votes, then these votes are being caught and not counted towards the election, right? Otherwise, where are they getting these numbers from?
I just feel like I’m living in Idiocracy here. Why are the leaders of our states and country making rules and laws against a completely non-existent problem? At least the stupid airport restrictions we go through were based on 9/11, something that actually happened. But significant voter fraud in 2020? That didn’t happen. So why are we transforming the way we vote over something that didn’t even happen?
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You mean "why do we make our government follow laws and not do whatever they want to?" This is from the judgement:
The government usurped authority it did not have. Someone sued to make them follow the law. The courts confirmed the government did indeed violate the law.
It is deeply concerning they way you seem to believe the ends always justify the means.
I'm pretty sure he asked the question he intended to ask, and that you chose to not answer.
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Why are drop boxes not permitted under wisconsin law?
Al-O-Meter
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Because Wisconsin had very clear election laws concerning who was authorized to receive ballots. The board of elections ignored the laws. The vote all counted but the judge ruled that going forward either the state legislature had to change the election laws to allow the drop boxes or the board of election had to follow the law as established. They couldn't simply ignore the law to do whatever they wanted.
Conservatives love hiding behind the law and the constitution when they restrict and take rights away. The treat both like the Bible, they pick and choose what to apply as long as it doesn’t impact them. It’s all “legal”, even though it’s hurtful and discriminatory.
But it’s ok, they just pick a verse, pray, or confess and they’re in the clear! Off to go **** over more people and wash it off for the next flex.
Logic and faith and stuff.
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This does not answer "why".
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On Friday, the Wisconsin Supreme Court’s Republican majority outlawed ballot drop boxes by a 4–3 vote, abolishing a reform that had made voting easier and more accessible in the state. The lead opinion—authored by the notorious fringe-right reactionary Justice Rebecca Grassl Bradley—contains alarming language casting doubt on the legitimacy of Joe Biden’s 2020 victory. It also grants credence to the GOP’s collapsing “investigation” to prove that illegal votes put Biden over the top in Wisconsin. Without a shred of evidence, the court has thrown its weight behind a dangerous conspiracy theory that helped to fuel the Jan. 6 insurrection.
In her opinion for the court in Teigen, Justice Grassl Bradley declared that every single drop box was illegal, and every citizen who used this method cast a ballot illegally. Why? The justice added a word to the statute, insisting that voters must return absentee ballots to the municipal clerk’s office. Returning a ballot to some other location under the exclusive control of the clerk does not suffice. Moreover, Bradley held that only the voter may return their ballot to a municipal clerk; a family member or friend may not do it for them.
The court’s implication could not be more obvious: The 2020 election was “unlawful,” so the results—and, specifically, Biden’s victory—are “illegitimate.”
As Justice Ann Walsh Bradley explained in dissent, Wisconsin law simply does not impose these requirements. (Side note: The existence of two Justice Bradleys with polar opposite ideologies is one of several befuddling features of the current court.) There are several statutes that do discuss the office of the clerk, but this isn’t one of them. The law only demands delivery to the clerks themselves. A drop box “is set up by the municipal clerk, maintained by the municipal clerk, and emptied by the municipal clerk.” Placing a ballot in a drop box is, under any reasonable reading, delivering a ballot to the clerk.
Wisconsin Supreme Court Bans Drop Boxes, Suggests Biden’s 2020 Victory Was “Illegitimate”
In an inflammatory decision, the far-right justices declared that illegal votes “polluted” the election.
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You didnt answer the question so i will try to ask it in a different way.
Why are drop boxes bad?
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Un-****ing-believable. My god our country is falling so fast it'll collapse way faster than the Roman empire did. Does Biden play the fiddle by the way?On Friday, the Wisconsin Supreme Court’s Republican majority outlawed ballot drop boxes by a 4–3 vote, abolishing a reform that had made voting easier and more accessible in the state. The lead opinion—authored by the notorious fringe-right reactionary Justice Rebecca Grassl Bradley—contains alarming language casting doubt on the legitimacy of Joe Biden’s 2020 victory. It also grants credence to the GOP’s collapsing “investigation” to prove that illegal votes put Biden over the top in Wisconsin. Without a shred of evidence, the court has thrown its weight behind a dangerous conspiracy theory that helped to fuel the Jan. 6 insurrection.
In her opinion for the court in Teigen, Justice Grassl Bradley declared that every single drop box was illegal, and every citizen who used this method cast a ballot illegally. Why? The justice added a word to the statute, insisting that voters must return absentee ballots to the municipal clerk’s office. Returning a ballot to some other location under the exclusive control of the clerk does not suffice. Moreover, Bradley held that only the voter may return their ballot to a municipal clerk; a family member or friend may not do it for them.
The court’s implication could not be more obvious: The 2020 election was “unlawful,” so the results—and, specifically, Biden’s victory—are “illegitimate.”
As Justice Ann Walsh Bradley explained in dissent, Wisconsin law simply does not impose these requirements. (Side note: The existence of two Justice Bradleys with polar opposite ideologies is one of several befuddling features of the current court.) There are several statutes that do discuss the office of the clerk, but this isn’t one of them. The law only demands delivery to the clerks themselves. A drop box “is set up by the municipal clerk, maintained by the municipal clerk, and emptied by the municipal clerk.” Placing a ballot in a drop box is, under any reasonable reading, delivering a ballot to the clerk.
Wisconsin Supreme Court Bans Drop Boxes, Suggests Biden’s 2020 Victory Was “Illegitimate”
In an inflammatory decision, the far-right justices declared that illegal votes “polluted” the election.slate.com