Was Fes' Play Last Night An Aberration?
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Personally I always think it's funny when someone wants to cherry pick their "neutral observers," entirely displacing the purpose of going to outside sources. Other outside observers dubbed Fes the "sub of the game" last night. Elson, of course, is also a sub.
As a side note: what smith calls "focused intensity" I call "really scary android-like qualities." I'm not certain Elson is even a human being. The Madame believes he's some kind of cylon. I maintain he's not lifelike enough to be a cylon and think he's more akin to Abraham Lincoln at Disneyland's Hall of Presidents.
There's a pretty good reason to strongly prefer playing Fes to Elson: Fes has a future. Even if you were to spot that their production on the court is roughly equal (which, FWIW, isn't true) the reality is that Elson is 34 years old and has been on six different teams over eight seasons. It's hardly likely we're going to see rapid improvement from the guy. Fesenko is nearly eleven years younger and is working on adding components to his game. One guy is who he is. The other is a wasting asset while Sloan is running the clock out.
I know Jerry is your guy but if Fes doesn't get to play even after he loses the weight, changes his regimen, stops jackpotting around, and shows a real commitment to improving his skill set at some point he's no longer plausibly the problem.
Hopper
Banned
To begin with, Fess did git to play, and he played well, presumably increasin Sloan's future confidence in him. I don't know what is behind Fess's "gastric distress," but Sloan sees it as a problem. It's hard for an outsider to know just how much Fess has actually quit "jackpotting around." Sloan has given Fess high praise, while also noting that you never know when he's gunna be there.
Sloan, Johnson, and company presumably had some reason for preferring Elson over Fess at that stage of the game. Let's face it, this was a game that called for determination after gittin 18 points down. It wasn't a situation where "future development" was the foremost consideration. My point was simply that Elson did an (at least) adequate job, and the Fess fanboyz want to diss him for it.
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Whew, this almost dropped to page 2.
Can we just drop it out of the que completely?
I'm issuing an official invitation to the bandwagon.
Hopper
Banned
Heh, the Fess fanboyz go wild. Fess played well tonight, and everyone here has acknowledged that he's much improved. Fess had 5 points, and two boards. Fair enough. He did his job. He played hard, and helped on D. He made a valuable contribution, as did many others. But, if you listen to the fanboyz, you might get the impression that he single-handedly won the game.
With the game on the line, no time left, Elson, all alone, stepped up and won it. But I don't see no Elson threads or posts from these fanboyz. Go figure, eh?
With the game on the line, no time left, Elson, all alone, stepped up and won it. But I don't see no Elson threads or posts from these fanboyz. Go figure, eh?
Do you really think we would have played as well with Elson in there the whole time in the 4th and OT. Couple of good foul shots either though he was supposed to miss the 2nd, but Fes needs to be in there and not him. Fes is over 10 years younger and still improving. The man needs to play.
GVC
Well-Known Member
Relying on the box score to quantify Fes' impact tonight? Ridiculous. The way he played the PnR against LeBron and Z was other worldly. To win games, it's imperative to have players out there who contribute when the ball isn't in their hands, and Fes gave us a perfect example of that tonight.