This game was a prime example on why we need a backup Center badly.
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Gobert has to play too many minutes. Gobert picks up more fouls when he plays too many minutes. We’ve had to put TB in in crunch time twice now. It’s not an issue of expecting him to be Rudy. It’s an issue of expecting someone to be able to not completely **** things up.we would fail every time if we want the backup center to just come in and continues to do everything that rudy's done for us. we simply need to switch our playstyle/gameplan entirely instead of hoping for any kind of unrealistic continuity.
it worked well for us when rudy was out for two games versus pels/bucks when snyder set up a whole different gameplan from the get go. instead of the defensive approach that we've always had with rudy, our offense was simply cooking and bradley had an offensive rating of 130 and 191 in those two games, respectively.
Forgetting Rudy isn’t out there isn’t the issue. The issue is realizing Bradley’s out there.There are probably 15 centers starting in the league that would be such a drop off from Gobert that it would feel like we needed someone else. Gobert is really good. There aren't many backup C that can come in and make us forget he's not in there.
bradley is fine. anyone would look bad if the coach simply tells you to go out there and provide what rudy gobert's been providing to the team.Forgetting Rudy isn’t out there isn’t the issue. The issue is realizing Bradley’s out there.
again, anyone would look bad defensively if he is to be compared to rudy gobert. fans just need to have a complete different expectation, so should quin. TB is an unique player on his own and has his own strength in catching/finishing with solids hands. why not utilize that more often like we did back when we played bucks/pels with rudy out, instead of asking him to be rudy's duplicate.Gobert has to play too many minutes. Gobert picks up more fouls when he plays too many minutes. We’ve had to put TB in in crunch time twice now. It’s not an issue of expecting him to be Rudy. It’s an issue of expecting someone to be able to not completely **** things up.
again, anyone would look bad defensively if he is to be compared to rudy gobert. fans just need to have a complete different expectation, so should quin. TB is an unique player on his own and has his own strength in catching/finishing with solids hands. why not utilize that more often like we did back when we played bucks/pels with rudy out, instead of asking him to be rudy's duplicate.
there was a reason for quin to use a lineup of Favs next to Rudy last couple of seasons even though they don't really mesh offensively because favs' mere presence on the floor serve as a tremendous reinforcement to Rudy on defense. whenver rudy goes out to contest a shot, he knows Favs will be right behind him to secure those rebounds and vice versa.Jazz fans have become entitled when it comes to their expectations of a back up center. We have gone from having Rudy and Favors two guys I consider to be close to top 5 centers in the league with Gobert being in the conversation of being the best and as I'm concerned comfortably the best defensive player in the league, to having Bradley and Davis. Davis struggled to defend and was absolutely useless on offense while Bradley also has the defensive struggles but can fit in on offense. The reality is whoever is the back up is going to find it difficult to emulate what Rudy is doing because 1. he is so good at what he does and 2. the system doesn't change from Rudy to his back up and 3. the bench guys that whoever Rudys back up plays with are also lesser defensive players than our starters. There might be better back up centers available than Tony Bradley but playing in our system (which in truth doesn't exactly aid Bradley) they might not be the upgrade Jazz think they would be.
Most of them are just soft fouls because he’s late but it looks like he’s straight up. He’s not very good.Refs call fouls on Bradley whether he fouls or not which makes him hesitant. We need a backup center that will at least not get a rookie like whistle
FINALLY.So here's where I'm at...
I don't think that Bradley is ideal for us as the backup THIS season. Just because he's still young, still learning, still growing. And we're trying to contend right now.
However... Bradley has shown a lot of promise and I don't think that the defensive issues and fouling are all his fault.
Our team defense is putting a lot of pressure on Gobert and Bradley to save us. Our perimeter defense has been bad the last few weeks. I mean we're just letting players blow by unimpeded. No resistance whatsoever. We're asking Gobert/Bradley to guard the opposing center, guard the blow by, protect the rim AND rebound. It's too much too ask on damn near every defensive possession.
So my question is... is it a defensive scheme problem or is it a personnel problem?
I think in a lot of ways it's a scheme issue. We've always funneled to Rudy. But Quin needs to somehow get the perimeter defenders to be more disruptive... don't make it as easy as it's been recently.
I feel like Bradley would look better if we weren't asking him to do what Rudy does. That's a MASSIVE ask.
I do think we need one more piece. I keep changing my mind on what that piece looks like. Sometimes I feel like it's a traditional backup 5. Sometimes I feel like it's a stretch 5 so we can go back to running some 5 out. Most times I feel like it's a disruptive defensive 4 who can also play some 5. Tonight I was wondering if maybe we need a strong perimeter defender so we can have Royce be more free a disruptive on help D. Ideally its probably a mix of some of those traits in one player.
LOL. The idea that we do NOT is ****ing hilarious and apparently the prevailing opinion if the replies are to be believed.