What Do You Think The Kessler Extension Would Look Like?

[Tom Pitt]

Sounds like he's gonna get around 20-25 million a year

 

[LoPo]

Shaq too. Hakeem. Embiid possibly if he could stay healthy. And ya there are exceptions. There will always be exceptions.
I think Wemby is another one.

Shaq and Hakeem? You and I are old enough to know those days are long gone from long ago. The game is different.

A team is better off loading up with a bunch of dynamic wings and backcourt players then grab a hustle big later. OKC did it with Hartlestein. Of course they have Chet, but Kessler isn’t Chet because Chet can stretch the floor.

I also think Wemby is another exception. With Wemby, Jokic, Shaq, Hakeem, we are talking unique specimens. Putting Kessler in the same conversation as those guys is quite ridiculous.

 

[tksavis]

5x125 with $27M for the first year and $23M in year 5. That’s good value and flexibility the last couple of years when we’ll hopefully be ready to really compete.

 

[fishonjazz]

Shaq and Hakeem? You and I are old enough to know those days are long gone from long ago. The game is different.

A team is better off loading up with a bunch of dynamic wings and backcourt players then grab a hustle big later. OKC did it with Hartlestein. Of course they have Chet, but Kessler isn’t Chet because Chet can stretch the floor.

I also think Wemby is another exception. With Wemby, Jokic, Shaq, Hakeem, we are talking unique specimens. Putting Kessler in the same conversation as those guys is quite ridiculous.

Agreed. Just saying that your post was inaccurate because you didn't mention the fact that there are exceptions. In fact you said that you ONLY contend with an elite wing/backcourt player. You can also contend with an elite Center/big. Also can contend with elite dudes as bigs and non bigs on the same team of course.
More than one way to contend I guess.

But ya, Kessler is very unlikely to be that dude. I would go as high as 25 million per year.

 

[framer]

Shaq too. Hakeem. Embiid possibly if he could stay healthy. And ya there are exceptions. There will always be exceptions.
I think Wemby is another one.

Ben Wallace was pretty damn instrumental in that Pistons title from a while ago. . .

 

[framer]

It would seem to reason that if everyone is stocking up on stud wings, it might be useful to have someone to keep them off the rim. Kessler makes the game easier for all the other players on the team, which is why we sat him when we got serious about losing. No other player on the Jazz currently affects winning or losing like Walker Kessler. I'd like Bailey and Hedricks to become studs on perimeter switches on defense. That unlocks much more easily with Kessler.

 

[NAOS_pt2]

I'd like Bailey and Hedricks to become studs on perimeter switches on defense. That unlocks much more easily with Kessler.

I'm a defense-first guy, so this is my favorite jazz-related subject to think about.

I just hope retaining Kessler can be done at a reasonable price, because I think all rich contracts need to go to dudes who can shoot better than him.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Financial flexibility is the most important thing prior to identifying your franchise player. Sure, we could dump Lauri I guess but I just don’t see the earth shattering implications of trading Kessler for a good haul. I see more negatives overpaying him than I do negatives from losing him.

We had the worst defense in the league with him not that it’s his fault. But still, we have a whole lot of areas to address before overpaying a guy who has clear limitations.

Financial flexibility might be the least important team building factor for a team like Utah.

 

[fishonjazz]

It would seem to reason that if everyone is stocking up on stud wings, it might be useful to have someone to keep them off the rim. Kessler makes the game easier for all the other players on the team, which is why we sat him when we got serious about losing. No other player on the Jazz currently affects winning or losing like Walker Kessler. I'd like Bailey and Hedricks to become studs on perimeter switches on defense. That unlocks much more easily with Kessler.

Really good post.

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm a defense-first guy, so this is my favorite jazz-related subject to think about.

I just hope retaining Kessler can be done at a reasonable price, because I think all rich contracts need to go to dudes who can shoot better than him.

And this. (though I would change the word "shoot" to "score". Nit picky but still)

 

[LoPo]

Financial flexibility might be the least important team building factor for a team like Utah.

OKC built their title on continually having space, making trades with that space and then drafting well. Sure they had some pieces like PG to trade, but still, they acquired picks using cap space and trading players who were good but not essential players.

But you just want to fight me on this which is what you like to do.

The modern game is built with spacing. Kessler doesn’t provide any. Paying $30 million for Adams, Allen, Kessler, etc is bad business.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

OKC built their title on continually having space, making trades with that space and then drafting well. Sure they had some pieces like PG to trade, but still, they acquired picks using cap space and trading players who were good but not essential players.

But you just want to fight me on this which is what you like to do.

The modern game is built with spacing. Kessler doesn’t provide any. Paying $30 million for Adams, Allen, Kessler, etc is bad business.

Thunder built their team through trades and the draft. They got extremely lucky Chet/Jalen were as ready as they were on their rookie contract. They also spend 30 million a year on an offensively limited center and they shot one of the lowest 3pt% in the playoffs of any team this year.