What Happened to Katie?

[fishonjazz]

Fishonjazz is taking a stand for tolerance of others!!! And their opinions!!!

Ya. I usually do. Strange that you think that is something to attack and criticize.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Newsflash (and this may be difficult for you to comprehend)-- there exists a world outside America.

In this world, there are municipalities, regions, and nations that allow Trans people to use the restroom matching their gender identity.

Please post all of the proof you can find that these legislations have led to an increase in molestation of any kind.


Until then, sit down & don't contribute to an issue that you don't understand-- especially when your prejudice leads to other posters leaving this forum.

I for sure never insinuated that you specifically ran off Katie (I don't think you really ever posted in GD back when she did) and you're definitely not confrontational with very many ppl here.

I'm just trying to point out that the posts you make are just opinions, and even if you're not attacking people with them they provide an environment that is uncomfortable for Trans people. That's the point I'm trying to make.

Dude, the post at the top of this page was directed at me. What it says doesn't match what you are saying in the second post at all. I used to admire your ability to express your opinion. I felt like you were mature beyond your years in that respect. Something has dramatically changed. I don't say that simply because of your interactions with me. Lately if someone doesn't have a strong liberal bias you attack their character.

 

[NAOS]

Ya. I usually do. Strange that you think that is something to attack and criticize.

and yet you've maintained the most classically bigoted stance on this issue throughout the thread.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Dude, the post at the top of this page was directed at me. What it says doesn't match what you are saying in the second post at all. I used to admire your ability to express your opinion. I felt like you were mature beyond your years in that respect. Something has dramatically changed. I don't say that simply because of your interactions with me. Lately if someone doesn't have a strong liberal bias you attack their character.

I honestly, honestly didn't mean to insinuate that you were the reason Katie left. I'm sorry about that. My mind worded that post differently than my fingers did.


However, I hope you can understand that the opinions you share have an impact on the posters that come and decide to frequent these boards. Bern said something similar in another thread about me, feel free to check out the response

 

[NAOS]

An authority on something? I never claimed to be that at all. Some of us were having a discussion about a topic and offering our opinions and experiences. No one was attacking anyone else. I was actually getting something out of hearing the other side of the discussion.

Then you showed up and offered nothing to the discussion other than attacks on the posters that you typically attack. Par for the course for you.
Carry on

you seem to be carrying on as if you know exactly how a penis determines character and gender.

You don't need to claim authority in order to be its mouthpiece (but that's just basic rhetoric, which you appear to lack).

 

[fishonjazz]

and yet you've maintained the most classically bigoted stance on this issue throughout the thread.

How so? See you just throw out an attack at me without explanation.

The only group of people I have had a negative stance against in this whole thread is perverted straight male molesters and predators.

I have said nothing bad about transgenders.

My stance has been that if you allow humans with penises into women's bathrooms then you might get more than transgenders going into them.

And I might even be wrong about that. We were having a discussion.
We were not simply attacking each other naos style. I would love to hear your opinion on this issue and why you have the opinion you do, rather than simple attacks on others.
I doubt you will change though.

I await your next attack.

 

[Stoked]

you seem to be carrying on as if you know exactly how a penis determines character and gender.

You don't need to claim authority in order to be its mouthpiece (but that's just basic rhetoric, which you appear to lack).

I think you are reading to far into his comments.

I think many peoples objections, and what I am getting from Fish, to these new laws/changes is that it gives creeps, not transgendered, easier access to women's restrooms. I can understand that argument. But I do not think it is sufficient reason to oppose these changes. There are already laws in place that would handle that.

 

[fishonjazz]

you seem to be carrying on as if you know exactly how a penis determines character and gender.

You don't need to claim authority in order to be its mouthpiece (but that's just basic rhetoric, which you appear to lack).

Whatever man. Keep on going after me without having any stance or opinion of your own.

 

[NAOS]

Whatever man. Keep on going after me without having any stance or opinion of your own.

I'll bet you that you can guess my stance on this fear-mongering ********. Correction: I'll bet you can guess a version of my stance on this, and then continue to put forward your unaltered position in the face of it.

 

[Stoked]

How so? See you just throw out an attack at me without explanation.

The only group of people I have had a negative stance against in this whole thread is perverted straight male molesters and predators.

I have said nothing bad about transgenders.

My stance has been that if you allow humans with penises into women's bathrooms then you might get more than transgenders going into them.

And I might even be wrong about that. We were having a discussion.
We were not simply attacking each other naos style. I would love to hear your opinion on this issue and why you have the opinion you do, rather than simple attacks on others.
I doubt you will change though.

I await your next attack.

Many people, increasing number, have no interest in an open and honest discussion free of snide comments or personal attacks. Generally speaking

 

[NAOS]

I think you are reading to far into his comments.

I think many peoples objections, and what I am getting from Fish, to these new laws/changes is that it gives creeps, not transgendered, easier access to women's restrooms. I can understand that argument. But I do not think it is sufficient reason to oppose these changes. There are already laws in place that would handle that.

you understand that argument because of the paranoid consistency of its logic. You don't understand it from the standpoint of evidence. Your pattern as a poster has usually been to ignore that distinction.

 

[NAOS]

How so? See you just throw out an attack at me without explanation.

The only group of people I have had a negative stance against in this whole thread is perverted straight male molesters and predators.

I have said nothing bad about transgenders.

My stance has been that if you allow humans with penises into women's bathrooms then you might get more than transgenders going into them.

And I might even be wrong about that. We were having a discussion.
We were not simply attacking each other naos style. I would love to hear your opinion on this issue and why you have the opinion you do, rather than simple attacks on others.
I doubt you will change though.

I await your next attack.

The fact that you continue to disregard the real distinction between sex (zigote production), sexual expression (i.e. genitals), and gender means that you are in fact bigoted. And your fear-mongering on the pervert issue is just an excuse for not extending rights.