What is Wrong with Donovan?

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  1. Eenie-Meenie

    Eenie-Meenie Well-Known Member

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    He seems to have lost confidence since Conley came back into the starting lineup. Perhaps it is because he is unsure of his role because of Mike. It seems to be the same for Jingles. Note that Quin had Joe running the point and took Mike out down the stretch and we still were f'g up. As I said awhile back, Mike is a huge chemistry problem.
     
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  2. Xthren

    Xthren Well-Known Member

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    Conley's a witch burn him.
     
  3. Thee jazz fan

    Thee jazz fan Well-Known Member

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    I think he’s seeing the ball less and needs to adjust to that and moving back to sg. Also, as a pg he was playing against smaller, lesser defenders, now being guarded by longer quicker better defenders. I have nothing against Conley, but I was apposed to trading for him as I wanted DM as our pg. overall he’s a much better player as a pg than SG. the jazz lost something when he moved back to sg.
     
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  4. David Stern

    David Stern Well-Known Member

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    I just think he’s tired tbh
     
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  5. Wes Mantooth

    Wes Mantooth Well-Known Member

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    Oh ****ing spare me. He’s a 24 year old kid and just had off three straight days.
     
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  6. SCS

    SCS Well-Known Member

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    Could be hurt. Took that weird bump on his hip a few games ago. Other than that he's just in a slump on both ends.
     
  7. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    I think... sometimes... maybe... you go through minifunks. It happens. Sometimes losing like this compounds problems... like you try to do too much or takeover to get your team a win. Or it just wears on you... he will be fine.
     
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  8. Wes Mantooth

    Wes Mantooth Well-Known Member

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    He’s not that great is the problem imo. He’ll never be a top 10-12 player. His perimeter game is average. His dribble penetration is okay to solid but he doesn’t get to the rim and isn’t really a threat to which makes having to double him not a thing. He’s an average passer. How many elite non point guards don’t get to the rim? Because doing that draws double teams and opens more **** up for teammates, allows for easy points at that line, gets opponents into foul trouble which in turn gets those players to loosen up their defensive efforts...not having a player get to the line frequently is an issue. I never see him doing that. And his TS% is subpar.
     
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  9. Wes Mantooth

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  10. Wes Mantooth

    Wes Mantooth Well-Known Member

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    Don averages 4.5. That’s a an issue for a 2 who’s supposedly so athletic.
     
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  11. homeytennis

    homeytennis Well-Known Member

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    I've got a great idea. Let's trade him for Trey Lyles.
     
  12. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    I mean this is his third year... he’s steadily improving... and honestly I think he’s a pg and should be the smallest guy in the floor for his team most nights. I think he’s more impactful when he’s not at a height length disadvantage. He could certainly be a top 10-12 player someday.
     
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  13. mellow

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    Is he heavier than a duck?
     
  14. mellow

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    What's wrong with Mitchell ?

    He is too short to play sg, his perimeter d is suspect, he sometimes becomes a chucker, his 3pt % are too low, this year he takes too many long twos, he used to rebound more and he has never recorded a message for Jazzfanz.

    Joking aside, for the last two seasons all the talk was about how much the group liked each other and they played with joy. You don't hear that talk so much this year.
     
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  15. Wes Mantooth

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    His advanced shooting numbers, assist numbers, rebounding numbers. Really nothing has changed since his rookie year. What has is barely nominal. He’s a really really good player. I don’t see him being great or elite. Perhaps the biggest reason is he doesn’t do anything even close to elite imo.
     
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  16. candrew

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    He's watching The Jazz get torched every night by more talented offensive players and he feels like he should be "that guy" for his team. So he's pressing and making poor decisions instead of letting the game come to him.
     
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  17. Wes Mantooth

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    If I’m salty, it’s because of our recent slide. If we had a legit 4 like Morris and/or any sort of balls, none of this would be happening.
     
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  18. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    I wish he’d worry a little less about assuming a certain identity and more about winning some ****ing games.
     
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  19. Wes Mantooth

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    Like, let’s be honest here. When he goes to penetrate, does anyone feel superbly confident that he’s gonna blow by his guy, get to the rim/score/draw the foul, or make some move to draw defenders to get someone else an easy basket. I sure as hell don’t. I easily would with Curry, Harden, Giannis, Doncic, and others. Not really at all with Donnie. And his inability to explosively jump off of one foot is probably the biggest reason holding him back. And that’s just baffling to me.
     
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  20. Eenie-Meenie

    Eenie-Meenie Well-Known Member

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    I think you're a bit extreme in your assessment. What do you mean he doesn't get to the rim? That is pure b.s. And he is getting lots of contact but not getting the calls. That seems to be the case with the Jazz overall. Why is every season it seems we are on the short end of the calls. Last night's miss was an aberration and may have been a make-up call for the travel they missed that cost us 3 points.
     

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