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What should the FO do if we are 0.500 by January?

If you were put in charge of the FO, what would you do if the Jazz were 0.500 on January 1st

  • Go For It: Use assets to add to the team and go for the playoff push

    Votes: 11 17.7%

  • Ethical Tank: Trade Kessler and Lauri for whatever we can get

    Votes: 8 12.9%

  • Stand Pat: Let it ride, see how it goes

    Votes: 12 19.4%

  • Unethical Tank: sit Lauri and Kessler for however long the league will allow

    Votes: 31 50.0%
  • Total voters
    62
KqWIN said:
Besides personnel change and benching, we can also get Hardy to cool it with coaching hard for the W. If Hardy doesn't lazer focus on getting the W against DET, the narrative is probably a lot different. We would have lost against DET and be happier with our W against SAS. But since we beat two good teams back to back the tank is suddenly over. There's been a few games like that earlier in the year as well. We've won games because Hardy is focused on it, and we've also lost some games where Hardy probably could have coached us to a W if he wanted.

We gotta cut out the flip flopping whenever and wherever we can. Just a few wins can make a big difference.
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I just don’t think it’s in Hardy’s DNA to not coach as hard as possible for each W. He’s not gonna do it. We've got to kneecap the roster if we have any hope of keeping the pick.
 
tksavis said:
I just don’t think it’s in Hardy’s DNA to not coach as hard as possible for each W. He’s not gonna do it. We've got to kneecap the roster if we have any hope of keeping the pick.
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He does it all the time. Did so all of last season and even some games this year. Look at the LAL game for example. If you think Hardy in the game was the same as Hardy in the DET game I’ve got beachfront property in Idaho to sell you.

Hardy is proven to be compliant, and that’s a good thing. If there is instruction from the FO he’ll do it.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Acting like we can't tank with a player of Lauri caliber is just wrong. OKC did it with SGA
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People always roll out SGA/OKC as an example of "tanking with a star".

I've said it before and I'll say it again: SGA was really young when that happened. OKC were in no rush with him, they knew he wasn't even in his prime yet.

With Lauri, it's totally different. He's smack in the middle of his prime, has a max deal, is approaching 30 and the Jazz are wasting a massive asset.

Makes no sense.
 
Just let it play out.

If we keep our pick, then great. Draft whoever happens to be our missing piece then full speed ahead.

But if we fail to keep our pick, we consolidate our assets and go all in on Anthony Black. Give Orlando any combination of Collier/Brice/Tay/Cavs firsts/Lakers firsts/Wolves firsts until they say yes. A starting five of Key/Black/Ace/Lauri/Kess should be enough to contend for years to come.
 
jom2003 said:
Just let it play out.

If we keep our pick, then great. Draft whoever happens to be our missing piece then full speed ahead.

But if we fail to keep our pick, we consolidate our assets and go all in on Anthony Black. Give Orlando any combination of Collier/Brice/Tay/Cavs firsts/Lakers firsts/Wolves firsts until they say yes. A starting five of Key/Black/Ace/Lauri/Kess should be enough to contend for years to come.
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I dont hate this idea. Black can also exploit the gravity provided by Lauri because he is a good enough passer to find Lauri (or Key) if the defence cheats off him. He can also defend the point pretty well.

I think those 3 paired with a competent center (doesnt even have to be a spacer, so Kessler could work) and a solid wing defender and you got a starting lineup that can win their minutes against anyone. Then if Ace pops and reaches his theoretical ceiling, you got a monster team.
 
We’re 12-20.

The only real benefit to I see in letting it “play out” is that it feels better in the meantime. You don’t get rewarded for being a slightly less bad team.

I keep seeing people using the Jazz being better than expected or Keyonte’s breakout season as justification that we don’t need to tank. I don’t really understand that. If you truly believe you have some in Key+Lauri it’s extra important that you build the best team possible around them.
 
HermanG said:
I dont hate this idea. Black can also exploit the gravity provided by Lauri because he is a good enough passer to find Lauri (or Key) if the defence cheats off him. He can also defend the point pretty well.

I think those 3 paired with a competent center (doesnt even have to be a spacer, so Kessler could work) and a solid wing defender and you got a starting lineup that can win their minutes against anyone. Then if Ace pops and reaches his theoretical ceiling, you got a monster team.
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To me it's either Suggs or Black for them. Depends entirely on whether Magic wanna do a small retool or a full teardown. What they could get Suggs in return is not gonna be ideal considering his contract and injury history. Definitely not enough to move the needle for them unless they package him with other assets for folks like AD/Giannis/etc but I highly doubt it. Black and Franz are the only ones who could net them significant assets needed to build for the future. But if they are trading Franz, they might as well just trade everyone.
 
Watching a player level up like Keyonte has this year is one of the most gratifying parts of being a fan of a team. It was similar with Lauri 3 years ago, but this is even more fun since we've seen Keyonte's whole career.

I do definitely understand the tanxiety and not wanting to lose our pick. I get all of that, but especially since we don't have any control over this, I think you just have to enjoy the moment. What we are witnessing is fun and special. I would personally hate for my personal tanxiety to ruin this season, so I need to keep reminding myself to chill out.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Watching a player level up like Keyonte has this year is one of the most gratifying parts of being a fan of a team. It was similar with Lauri 3 years ago, but this is even more fun since we've seen Keyonte's whole career.

I do definitely understand the tanxiety and not wanting to lose our pick. I get all of that, but especially since we don't have any control over this, I think you just have to enjoy the moment. What we are witnessing is fun and special. I would personally hate for my personal tanxiety to ruin this season, so I need to keep reminding myself to chill out.
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as always a great take from you dude
 
Tremendous Upside said:
People always roll out SGA/OKC as an example of "tanking with a star".

I've said it before and I'll say it again: SGA was really young when that happened. OKC were in no rush with him, they knew he wasn't even in his prime yet.

With Lauri, it's totally different. He's smack in the middle of his prime, has a max deal, is approaching 30 and the Jazz are wasting a massive asset.

Makes no sense.
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People always nitpick on basically perfect examples, or as perfect as you’ll get, because of XYZ which are arbitrarily determined by said nitpicker. We can and will tank with Lauri. We have done it. Will do it again. For where we are and where he is it is the right call. If Ainges have a Time Machine maybe they’d go back and trade him a few years ago. Where we are now… this is the way.
 
If benching SGA is honorable, just bench Key /s.

This whole thing is stupid. There is no honor in the NBA. The best teams tank their *** off and it’s forgiven because it happened to work for them. The only thing the Jazz need to worry about league wise is not messing up those juicy DraftKings bets. The idea that the league is focused on forcing the Jazz to win as much as possible is ridiculous.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Watching a player level up like Keyonte has this year is one of the most gratifying parts of being a fan of a team. It was similar with Lauri 3 years ago, but this is even more fun since we've seen Keyonte's whole career.

I do definitely understand the tanxiety and not wanting to lose our pick. I get all of that, but especially since we don't have any control over this, I think you just have to enjoy the moment. What we are witnessing is fun and special. I would personally hate for my personal tanxiety to ruin this season, so I need to keep reminding myself to chill out.
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Great post
 
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