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What type of asset is Hayward?

PointGod_AlecBurks said:
how is his situation different from Tyreke Evans last year?
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What? They weren't traded.

Tyreke was involved in a sign-and-trade, which can still happen with Gordo. At that point, however, a team couldn't take advantage of his restricted free agency, as he'd already be signed. Billy was saying that Gordo has value because a team trading for him would be trading for a restricted free agent, but the Jazz can only trade him in a sign-and-trade after the July moratorium, when Gordo will be a free agent. The only team that will be able to "scare away bidders" is the Jazz.

2 useful links:
https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q99
https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q102

From the first:
In addition, teams cannot trade players under the following circumstances:...
  • When the trade deadline has passed. Teams are free to make trades again once their season has ended[SUP]3[/SUP], but cannot trade players whose contracts are ending or could end due to an option or ETO.
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So...Gordo can only be traded in a sign-and-trade on or after July 10, when he'll be a free agent (likely restricted).
 
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after Tyreke's 4th season he signed a 44mil contract with the Pelicans, the kings didnt match, and still managed to get back Greivis Vaszquez

after his 4th season Batum signed a 46mil contract with Minnesota, the Blazers matched, so the Twolves offered packages of 1st rounders and Derrick Williams

what excludes Gordon from scenarios like these?
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
after Tyreke's 4th season he signed a 44mil contract with the Pelicans, the kings didnt match, and still managed to get back Greivis Vaszquez

after his 4th season Batum signed a 46mil contract with Minnesota, the Blazers matched, so the Twolves offered packages of 1st rounders and Derrick Williams

what excludes Gordon from scenarios like these?
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This is exactly the type of scenario he will be in.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
after Tyreke's 4th season he signed a 44mil contract with the Pelicans, the kings didnt match, and still managed to get back Greivis Vaszquez

after his 4th season Batum signed a 46mil contract with Minnesota, the Blazers matched, so the Twolves offered packages of 1st rounders and Derrick Williams

what excludes Gordon from scenarios like these?
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As I said, Gordo can be traded in a sign-and-trade. Billy was talking about the Jazz trading him before he becomes a free agent, so that the team acquiring him could match any offer for him once he becomes a restricted free agent. That's not possible.

Also, Tyreke did not sign a contract with the Pelicans. He was involved in a sign-and-trade between the Kings and Pelicans.

Your story about Batum doesn't make sense for a number of reasons. Had the Blazers already matched, the T-Wolves couldn't then offer anything, as Batum would be under contract and ineligible to be traded for 3 months.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
after Tyreke's 4th season he signed a 44mil contract with the Pelicans, the kings didnt match, and still managed to get back Greivis Vaszquez

after his 4th season Batum signed a 46mil contract with Minnesota, the Blazers matched, so the Twolves offered packages of 1st rounders and Derrick Williams

what excludes Gordon from scenarios like these?
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A player can only be signed and traded if the current team doesn't match the offer sheet.

Hayward what have had to been traded before the deadline in order for a team to acquire his RFA rights. Now any team that trades for Gordon has to do so as a sign and trade. Just like we did trading for Tyreke Evans and Ryan Anderson.
 
da ThRONe said:
A player can only be signed and traded if the current team doesn't match the offer sheet.
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If a player has signed an offer sheet, he can't be traded. Period.

If the offer sheet is matched, the player stays with his old team under the terms in the offer sheet, and the player can't be traded for 3 months. If the offer sheet is not matched, the offer sheet becomes the player's new contract, and the player can't be traded for 3 months.
 
GVC said:
Also, Tyreke did not sign a contract with the Pelicans. He was involved in a sign-and-trade between the Kings and Pelicans.
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Tyreke signed a 44 million dollar Offer Sheet with the Pelicans which the kings had a chance to match, they declined. after that the details were worked out for the S+T and then the contract was signed.
 
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