jazzrule
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I doubt you have felt God's presence very often. Repent ye repent ye for the kingdom of God is at hand.
What type of candidate can beat Trump?
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I doubt you have felt God's presence very often. Repent ye repent ye for the kingdom of God is at hand.
jazzrule
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I was just too smart to get involved with hard drugs. Now who is very juvenile, very simple minded, very insulated and very ignorant view of drug use.
jazzrule
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You may be right Gameface they say as you get very old you start reversing back into childhood, or is it as a liberal you just don't like someone disagreeing with you? You liberals preach about tolerance, but then attack anyone who does not agree with your views. Sorry but I love my country and I know open borders, sanctuary states/cities, late term abortions, health care for illegals, etc. is not good for our country.
jazzrule
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LOL that does not even make sense. You are too funny. Losing your temper like that is very immature on your part, or is from using hard drugs?
I haven't really read any of this thread, but this article from the Bulwark seemed to fit the thread title at least, https://thebulwark.com/the-breakup/. As an anti-Trump Republican myself, so much in the article reflects my own feelings about both Trump and the extreme left. Here are some sections I thought were particularly good.
"What people like me have decided is that despite the policy goodies we get with Trump, despite the enormous social and professional pressure to pledge allegiance and kiss the ring, the larger costs and risks of Trump’s presidency vastly outweigh the real positive goods he has delivered to Republicans and conservatives.
"There aren’t enough tax cuts and judges in the world to justify a president who stands on the stage with Vladimir Putin and sides against America’s intelligence community; who ignores, if not invites, foreign interference in our elections and normalizes unprecedented levels of corruption and incompetence; who abdicates moral leadership both at home and abroad; who lies and obstructs justice and then lies about obstructing justice.
"As a result, we Never Trumpers, like Democrats, believe it would be better for the country if Trump were to lose the next election.
"...we [Never-Trump Republicans] are making the case that the Democratic nominee should be the man or woman with the best chance of beating Trump and getting elected president in 2020.
"Yes, Donald Trump is unpopular compared to most first-term presidents. Do you know what else is unpopular? Eliminating private health insurance, late-term abortions, the Green New Deal, open borders, and free health care for illegal immigrants. (This isn’t my opinion. Go look at the polling.)
"And this is what we Never Trumpers can’t quite get our heads around strategically: A majority of Americans support access to abortion in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy, action to address climate change, permanent status for DACA recipients, a pathway to citizenship for people who came to the U.S. illegally, modest reforms on guns, and universal access to healthcare (though support for that last line-item drops to 13 percent if it means eliminating private health insurance).
"Isn’t that a progressive enough agenda? Because that entire list is there for the taking, if Democrats want it.
"...Now, could Democrats win [swing] voters in 2020 by running the most extreme candidate available? Sure, I guess. Anything is possible.
"But what it all comes down to is this: If you’re a Democrat, do you view the possibility of electing a more progressive president as worth the risk of reelecting Trump?"
"What people like me have decided is that despite the policy goodies we get with Trump, despite the enormous social and professional pressure to pledge allegiance and kiss the ring, the larger costs and risks of Trump’s presidency vastly outweigh the real positive goods he has delivered to Republicans and conservatives.
"There aren’t enough tax cuts and judges in the world to justify a president who stands on the stage with Vladimir Putin and sides against America’s intelligence community; who ignores, if not invites, foreign interference in our elections and normalizes unprecedented levels of corruption and incompetence; who abdicates moral leadership both at home and abroad; who lies and obstructs justice and then lies about obstructing justice.
"As a result, we Never Trumpers, like Democrats, believe it would be better for the country if Trump were to lose the next election.
"...we [Never-Trump Republicans] are making the case that the Democratic nominee should be the man or woman with the best chance of beating Trump and getting elected president in 2020.
"Yes, Donald Trump is unpopular compared to most first-term presidents. Do you know what else is unpopular? Eliminating private health insurance, late-term abortions, the Green New Deal, open borders, and free health care for illegal immigrants. (This isn’t my opinion. Go look at the polling.)
"And this is what we Never Trumpers can’t quite get our heads around strategically: A majority of Americans support access to abortion in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy, action to address climate change, permanent status for DACA recipients, a pathway to citizenship for people who came to the U.S. illegally, modest reforms on guns, and universal access to healthcare (though support for that last line-item drops to 13 percent if it means eliminating private health insurance).
"Isn’t that a progressive enough agenda? Because that entire list is there for the taking, if Democrats want it.
"...Now, could Democrats win [swing] voters in 2020 by running the most extreme candidate available? Sure, I guess. Anything is possible.
"But what it all comes down to is this: If you’re a Democrat, do you view the possibility of electing a more progressive president as worth the risk of reelecting Trump?"
I've never used hard drugs. Ever.
But this guy knows.
“I know the biggest words.
I have an iq higher than all of them
I went to a better school then they did
I’m smarter than they are
He says I’m brilliant. I am brilliant
I went to an Ivey league school. I was a great student. I am a very smart person.”
Follow your dear leader, he’s really smart. Anyone who admires this self deluded buffoon is a total dope.
Read your bible:
Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
When pride comes, then comes disgrace,
but with humility comes wisdom.
Do you follow the Bible or just enjoy the ego blast that comes from feeling superior, self righteous, and sanctimonious?
The Thriller
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I love the Bulwark.
Do you listen to the podcasts?
If you can, listen to his last few (with Charlie Sykes).
* mark salter on Wed July 3rd (I think) was outstanding on what you’re talking about.
* Bill Kristol joins the podcast and gives outstanding commentary on what you’re talking about and his thoughts on Trump’s 4th of July. I believe this was maybe July 5th?
* If you don’t mind a little salty language, listen to the one with Rick Wilson. For those who don’t know, Wilson is a former GOP operative who’s become Never Trump. His advice for Democrats and attacks on Trump are priceless. And he’s hilarious. Just... don’t listen to it around kids. Even Charlie lets a few swears leak out (and he rarely does that).
The Bulwark, SE Cupp, Slate Gabfest, and Pod Save America are my favorite podcasts. Really love the Bulwark (common sense conservatism).
Zombie
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That list of podcasts is sure to be surprising to some people.
Yes, I also love the Bulwark. I do listen to the podcasts fairly regularly. I listened to Kim Wehle's recent one, but not the three you mentioned. But I just queued up Mark Salter's, so I'll listen to that soon. I am also a huge Bill Kristol fan--I follow his twitter (along with Charlie Sykes and Sarah Longwell, etc.) and normally also listen to him whenever he's on the Bulwark. But I'll pass on this particular one because I've already ready countless tweets by him about the Trump 4th of July issue. I think I'll pass on the Rick Wilson one, too; thanks for the language warning.
Ironically I think I discovered the Bulwark via Bill Kristol's twitter, and I discovered Bill Kristol many, many years ago via FoxNews when he used to do frequent interviews there (and when I used to watch it sometimes). So FoxNews is actually directly to thank for me becoming a Bulwark fan.
I don't know SE Cupp, Slate Gabfest, and Pod Save America, but I'll check them out. The other two political (sort of) podcasts I enjoy are FiveThirtyEight and the Lawfare podcast.
jazzrule
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Then why do you defend those who do and like to brag/kid about it?
jazzrule
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I know you just got off your mission, so I will give you time to get up too speed. Open borders will ruin this country. Your for any term abortion and believe in God? You are for killing infants if they survive abortion? You are for socialist over our system of government? Do you think illegals should get drivers license so they can register to vote? Take time to learn what is going on.
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One Brow
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Because some people understand that what worked for them doesn't necessarily work for everyone.
Uhh... did you read the fine print in my mission post? I actually served from 1989-1991, and am 48 now. Also, read the Bulwark article I linked to before spouting off like that. The whole point of the article is that Democrats should NOT take those extreme positions or they won't have support from anti-Trump Republicans such as myself.
The Thriller
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I really enjoy Bill Kristol as well. It’s hard to believe that he used to be a regular conservative on Fox News and now is seen almost as a “liberal pariah.” He really hasn’t changed much. I agree with most of his takes. But it’s almost like people like he and Sykes are in the minority these days by actually keeping their values and beliefs.
The one with Mark Salter was really good as I recall. But now I think I might be confusing it with the one with David Jolly. So listen to both?! Sorry!
I remember them talking about immigration and how in politics before both sides of the political spectrum had a wink and nod understanding on topics like immigration. So that’s what Salter talked about. So I’m pretty sure that’s the one you might really enjoy.
I forgot to mention, the one with Kim Wehel is really good too. I put a hold on her book at the library. She discusses things related to the Supreme Court, constitution, and rule of law. She definitely makes as case against Trump and his trampling or democratic norms.
Sorry I couldn’t be clearer. I listen to the Bulwark at least every other day and I recently deleted a bunch of past episodes and I’m struggling to recover them. If I knew how to use my iPhone better I’d probably be a better help.
I haven’t to lawfare. Going to have to try that one. I enjoy 538 too although I havent listened to them as much over the past 6-8 months. Probably should
The Thriller
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Looks like Dutch got a new alt.
If you don’t encourage fertile women to be impregnated with embryos that are otherwise going to be murdered, that makes you responsible for these deaths
Refuse and you are a baby killer.