When can we first extend an offer to Gobert?

[Coach Ellis]

The cap jumps this offseason, but 2017 is the big year for the Jazz moving forward. They'll have Hayward available to opt out (this is why the 5 year max would have been better) and everyone but Gobert and Burke (doubt he's still here) that are under contract.

If Hayward opts out and Gobert delays his extension, the Jazz would have room for a max offer to a free agent, bird rights for Hayward and the option to give Gobert a 5 year max as well. It's not ideal (because Hayward could walk with getting nothing back) but if they're commuted to keeping him it would be easy to add a key piece if they time things right.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

No, I'm sure Dennis will encourage him to go out and establish his market value, That's generally what the Jazz do. And it's worked so well (pissed off Millsap, allowed Hayward to get an opt-out). Or DL could offer a Favors-like contract and see if he'd bite.

In all seriousness, this deal will set the tone for the Jazz' championship hopes.' If Rudy says he'll take less (say 20%) so others can stay, I think Utah could be in good shape. But if Rudy and then Gordon and Favors demand max contracts, Utah is sunk because none of those guys is a franchise player. They're all fringe all-stars.

I love how people on jazzfanz just assume things as facts, when they have no idea.

 

[Gameface]

I have a question. If a restricted player receives an offer why do they always sign it? Couldn't they show the Jazz their offer and say this is what they will give me, what will you give me? That way it might be possible for the Jazz to take out some stuff that isn't good for the team and maybe give a little extra in other ways to make it a better deal for everybody?

 

[Jazz4ever]

I have a question. If a restricted player receives an offer why do they always sign it? Couldn't they show the Jazz their offer and say this is what they will give me, what will you give me? That way it might be possible for the Jazz to take out some stuff that isn't good for the team and maybe give a little extra in other ways to make it a better deal for everybody?

If its just a verbal agreement, the player has to worry about them pulling the offer if something better comes along. The player is then left with no leverage at all. Plus lets face it, if they didn't sign you to an extension, things aren't perfectly rosy with your original team.

 

[GVC]

*bunch of irrelevant nonsense*

Where in any of that is it even implied that Millsap was 'pissed' because he wasn't offered an extension?

 

[fishonjazz]

Where in any of that is it even implied that Millsap was 'pissed' because he wasn't offered an extension?

I'm with stifle on this one.
I think millsap was upset

 

[vegas]

Just to stir, I heard Millsap and Korver would have played in Utah for a discount.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Where in any of that is it even implied that Millsap was 'pissed' because he wasn't offered an extension?

Well, if his agent says he'd rather play in Portland and asks the team not to match, to me that indicates a certain level of displeasure. Did they eventually mend fences? Yes.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I love how people on jazzfanz just assume things as facts, when they have no idea.

Have you heard the phrase. "tongue-in-cheek?"

 

[silesian]

I have a question. If a restricted player receives an offer why do they always sign it?

All offers are not signed. There is a lot of pre-signing negotiations and sharing of information on market value between agents and teams. The signing moves the process along a timeline pre-set by the CBA.

 

[GVC]

Well, if his agent says he'd rather play in Portland and asks the team not to match, to me that indicates a certain level of displeasure.

Or maybe he just wanted to play in Portland. Again, where in any of this is there any evidence Millsap was 'pissed' he didn't receive an offer from the Jazz?

 

[MDAV28]

I thought an extension was limited to 107.5% of his current salary up to the max for his years of service. It can be renegotiated from what I read after the 3rd year. Quotes are from the cbafaq site.

Extensions


On renegotiations (last year of a contract?)

Nah it's 25% of the cap because that's the max a player with 0-6 years can get.

We can only offer a 4-year extension tho unless we use our Designated 5-year extension. If we wait for his RFA, we can offer the same 25% of the cap max with 7.5% raise for 5 years.