Which Is Worse?

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  1. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    I hate to break it to you, but when I was at your house with Trout, he said many hurtful things to me that sincerely hurt my feelings and I was your guest. Did you do anything about it? No, sir, you did not.
     
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  2. Gameface

    Gameface All-Jazzfanz First Team! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    But was what he was saying the truth? It matters.
     
  3. Gyp Rosetti

    Gyp Rosetti Banned

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    Agreed. But for the record, weren't you perma-banned once too?
     
  4. YB85

    YB85 Banned Contributor

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    The chinaman is not the issue here!
     
  5. freakazoid

    freakazoid Well-Known Member

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    Yep. The only reason I'm still here is because of the amnesty that was allowed after the board crashed. Just the same, my perma-ban was my own fault, and I've never said anything to the contrary. I'm a prime example of someone who really shouldn't drink and post.:eek:

    As far as I know, Trout is the only poster that was ever allowed back after a perma-ban(not counting amnesty), although I suspect GVC would have been if not for the GVC rule.
     
  6. One Brow

    One Brow Well-Known Member

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    LostTacoVendor was allowed back after a perma-ban. It didn't last.
     
  7. YB85

    YB85 Banned Contributor

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    Didn't that have more to do with the threat of a moderator revolt than for LTV's subsequent behavior?
     
  8. sirkickyass

    sirkickyass Moderator Emeritus Staff Member

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    I was not a mod at that time, but my understanding is that at least one moderator quit over it and LTV then violated what was communicated to him as a "zero tolerance policy."

    I've also stated in the past that I believe that LTV would survive under current moderating standards. He's aware that he's welcome back under general amnesty and has chosen not to exercise that privilege.

    There are several posters that have been perma-banned in the past where the prevailing sentiment among the moderators was that we liked the people but that they had effectively forced our hand to either enforce the rules or announce that the rules didn't really apply to all posters equally (which is something that a small contingent of the board will assert no matter what). Off the top of my head I know that several of us regretted feeling like we had to ban Freakazoid back in the day and there was a similar sentiment about franklin in this incarnation of the board.
     
  9. gregbroncs

    gregbroncs Well-Known Member

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    If they can't follow the rules why should they be allowed to post? Trout is a good poster but why should he be allowed to constantly break the rules? On most boards trout would have been gone long ago. The moderating on this board is extremely forgiving. Other boards I frequent would not have put up with his posting style for more than a couple weeks (if that long). I like the guys posts but don't pretend that he is being picked on. He has got to have by far the most infractions in the history of this site and the old board. If he can't follow the rules after all of that why should he be allowed a different punishment than the one that is in place?
     
  10. moevillini

    moevillini the Chief Old D'oh Staff Member

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    I was not a mod on the former board at the time so I didn't know the details, but I recall feeling Ballijuana's banning was totally unfair. As was Freak's.

    At any rate, as far as Trout is concerned, this is a two-week suspension, so why all the talk of permanent bans? Trout knows exactly where he stands with his infraction count, and he has an uncanny ability to walk the line until infractions expire and come off his record.

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  11. Jason

    Jason Administrator Staff Member

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    Good conversation. From the outside, most bans probably do appear "totally unfair". But as some have stated, they deserved it and we do have a pretty lenient policy - not the least of which is that any infraction requires the vote of three moderators. For the benefit of others, Trout and I spoke during his recent ban and he admitted that he crossed the line this time. Could have been just talk but...
     
  12. YB85

    YB85 Banned Contributor

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    I chatted with him yesterday and told him that he just needs to put some people on "ignore" but he said if only it was that easy. Well, it is. If someone's posts bug you so bad that you have to go out of your way to post inappropriate comments when leaving neg rep, ignoring them would be easier. There is only one person I feel this way about, but I can't put them on ignore, unfortunately. If I could, it would save me a lot of frustration.
     
  13. sirkickyass

    sirkickyass Moderator Emeritus Staff Member

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    Trout Facebook'd me yesterday to let me know that he wasn't protesting the suspension at all. In his words "I'm touched, but seriously -- I haven't said a word contrary to what you/cat/jason/colton have said. I'm enjoying my vacation, dammit!"

    I think that makes it pretty case closed.
     
  14. GVC

    GVC Well-Known Member

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    I am the original gangster. Respect.
     
  15. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    I teach my kids that just because something is true, it doesn't make it ok to say it. My neighbors new baby looks exactly like a pig. Including weird coarse hairs where babies should not have hair. Seriously ugly kid. It doesn't make it alright to say "Hey Bob, your kid looks just like a pig! Sooo-eee!! Sooo-eee!! Keep him away from IHOP!"

    But, your house, your rules. Just like JazzFanz.
     
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  16. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Agreed. I have 1 on ignore now. I had 2 but took one off recently. It makes it a little weird to see the occasional comment flagged as on the ignore list, but it makes the board infinitely more readable (for me at least) as a result.
     
  17. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure I'm the guy YB is talking about. Awesome. On a totally unrelated note, I just think people wanna save money.
     
  18. YB85

    YB85 Banned Contributor

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    No, I could ignore you. The person I'm talking about can't be ignored because of their board duties. I can't put a moderator on ignore, unfortunately for me.
     
  19. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    Don't lie to yourself, guy. ;)
     
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  20. GVC

    GVC Well-Known Member

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    I stopped reading thriller and millsapa's posts a long time ago. ****ing retards.
     

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