Who are the Dems going to run in 2020?

[Stoked]

I'm seeing a new name pop up a bunch.

Keith Ellison, a congress man from Minnesota. Reid, Schumer, Sanders and others have all thrown support behind him or praised him publicly for the DNC chair job. He is a rising star to keep an eye on.

 

[Stoked]

Term limit would be fantastic. A truly meaningful act by Trump. Unfortunately, it would require a constitutional amendment. So no chance of it happening, regardless of who controls congress.

To me this all depends on how much pressure the R voting base puts on their states. Rs control 33 governorships and most state houses...

 

[colton]

If Hillary decides to run again, she's got the best built-in slogan ever: "Hindsight is 2020!"

 

[fgcamel]

Walls/fences, massive deportations of millions, security, and tax cuts don't come for free.

Mexico, Mexico, Russia and poor people. Duh...

 

[Stoked]

I find it funny that so many people are in favor of term limits yet they vote their own officials in over and over.

Like we have no self-control and need our government to forbid us from voting for the same SOBs we did last time

And I also don't like term limits because if you get a really special person in office who is doing everything right you're going to have to let them go so that you can vote in some regular old politician.

Some reports on this and polling I read, it's been a while, said basically that people think Congress sucks except for their guy.

 

[LogGrad98]

Some reports on this and polling I read, it's been a while, said basically that people think Congress sucks except for their guy.

Pretty standard armchair politicking. People are willing to overlook truly heinous traits in their guy while picking the tiniest nits they can find in the other guy as if they are Armageddon incarnate.

 

[Siro]

I find it funny that so many people are in favor of term limits yet they vote their own officials in over and over.

Like we have no self-control and need our government to forbid us from voting for the same SOBs we did last time

And I also don't like term limits because if you get a really special person in office who is doing everything right you're going to have to let them go so that you can vote in some regular old politician.

Without term limits, politicians are compelled to campaign from the day they run to the day they retire. It consumes most their time, and dictates what they say and how they vote.

Effective administrators being forced out after two terms or whatever is a minor consideration compared to the problems with the current system.

 

[colton]

Without term limits, politicians are compelled to campaign from the day they run to the day they retire. It consumes most their time, and dictates what they say and how they vote.

Effective administrators being forced out after two terms or whatever is a minor consideration compared to the problems with the current system.

This is one of the most compelling arguments to me. I saw a stat once on what fraction on their time was spent campaigning, fund raising, etc, and while I don't remember the details I remember the percentage was staggering.

 

[babe]

I sent in an application for [MENTION=970]babe[/MENTION] since he told me he is smarter than anyone here.

yeah, I'm really disappointed with the JazzFanzers slant on everything. Plenty of really smart people here, just mostly compromised intellectually with an inability to make fundamental contact with truth because of their level of ideological and party line indoctrination. Maybe too much "faith" in media sources that are now proven to be dishonest political partisan in character.

It doesn't matter how smart anyone believes they are, it's the willingness to be intellectually principled enough to put truth above other values, such as political preference or monetary incentives, or fitting in with a little group of bent outta shape political partisans.

By the way, you're a complete liar and a hack saying I told you or anyone I was "smarter" than anyone. "right", maybe, but I have no delusions of being fundamentally "smart", I only insist on rooting through stuff until I can form an opinion that fits the information.

 

[Ron Mexico]

yeah, I'm really disappointed with the JazzFanzers slant on everything. Plenty of really smart people here, just mostly compromised intellectually with an inability to make fundamental contact with truth because of their level of ideological and party line indoctrination. Maybe too much "faith" in media sources that are now proven to be dishonest political partisan in character.

It doesn't matter how smart anyone believes they are, it's the willingness to be intellectually principled enough to put truth above other values, such as political preference or monetary incentives, or fitting in with a little group of bent outta shape political partisans.

By the way, you're a complete liar and a hack saying I told you or anyone I was "smarter" than anyone. "right", maybe, but I have no delusions of being fundamentally "smart", I only insist on rooting through stuff until I can form an opinion that fits the information.

I guess we should all stick to the news sources you follow that give you false stats like the ones you posted about how races have voted.

I assumed when you said everyone was everyone on this board nitwits you were not including yourself, my bad if that is not what you meant. Either way you frequently call intelligence levels of posters in question and come off frequently as acting smarter than other posters. That is what I meant by that.

Are you excited about Banner and his potential new position. I am guessing you like him?

Anyone else see the levels of false stories shared on on conservative leaning facebook pages compared to liberal leaning ones? They were both waaaayyyy to high so I agree many people put faith into things they read. It was around 38% for conservatives and 20% for liberals.

 

[JazzGal]

I've been trying to make sense of how people can see the same things and process them so differently. All I can figure is that each person has a few key issues that matter to them more than any others, combined with their own world view. Information filters through and confirmation bias occurs.

No issue in a political campaign is completely black or white. So your truth is not my truth. The tough part is realizing that your view is not the "right" one as there isn't only one correct interpretation. It's tough allowing others their truth.

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[LogGrad98]

I've been trying to make sense of how people can see the same things and process them so differently. All I can figure is that each person has a few key issues that matter to them more than any others, combined with their own world view. Information filters through and confirmation bias occurs.

No issue in a political campaign is completely black or white. So your truth is not my truth. The tough part is realizing that your view is not the "right" one as there isn't only one correct interpretation. It's tough allowing others their truth.

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That's the problem when people confuse opinion for fact.