Who will lead in PPG this season?

[Deleted member 848]

I voted Hood but very strong likelihood that it's Rudy, especially when you factor in Rubio.

This will be a fun team to follow

 

[fishonjazz]

Wow, that's not a very good record and an incredibly small sample size.

So over the last 5 years the jazz went 197 (wins) and 213 (losses). (This number is slightly inflated with a higher win % than it would be if this were just a reflection of the jazz record with hayward due to the fact that this includes games that hayward missed, which we won at a higher percentage)

Over that same time without hayward the jazz went 18-14 (credit to hayward for rarely missing games btw).

Looks like they had a better win % without him to me. I don't know how to figure out the win percentages so I don't know exactly what they are but even someone as bad at math as me can see that 18-14 means we won over 50% and 197-213 means we won less than 50%.

 

[Stoked]

Not funny. Also your supposition is flat wrong, and using a microscopic sample size does as much to undermine your argument as support it.

Franklin is 100% correct. Sorry if stating simple, obvious reality isn't macho enough.

Franklin does have a point but takes it to far IMO. Some of the teams that improved were already playoff teams. Like Houston and OKC. Minny got much better but the Clips also got worse.

I think the Jazz will be better defensively and worse offensively. Hayward absolutely mattered. But I say the Jazz finish as the 7th seed.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Who isnt playing so Burks can get minutes?

I don't think people understand that he won't be a rotation player when we are healthy. If we are healthy Hood, Ingles, Mitchell, Exum, Thabo, will eat up all the minutes at 2/3.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I voted Hood but very strong likelihood that it's Rudy, especially when you factor in Rubio.

This will be a fun team to follow

I think Ricky will set Hood up for spot up opportunities. I think teams will focus on taking away Rudy's roll game. If Hood can stay healthy for good chunks of the season I think its him no doubt... if not I think it's Rudy and we play a lot of games in the 80s - 90s.

 

[Jazz4ever]

It's a winning record during years when our record was horrible

18-14 is a win % that could get you into the playoffs. And thats with some horrible rosters and no amazing hayward out there either.
Did you forget that we missed the playoffs for many years before last year.

I'm shocked that a team that couldn't make the playoffs would have a winning record without their "best" player.

As for sample size. It's not huge but 32 games isn't tiny either.

It what is. We had a better winning % when hayward didn't play than when he did, no matter what excuses you want make and how you want to spin it. Which was my original point.

It's very in line with his advanced metrics like wins above replacement player and RPM.

 

[fishonjazz]

I don't think people understand that he won't be a rotation player when we are healthy. If we are healthy Hood, Ingles, Mitchell, Exum, Thabo, will eat up all the minutes at 2/3.

Sadly, I agree

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Sadly, I agree

Don't be too sad doe... when was the last time we were healthy? I think he will need a 10 game run of normal playing time to shake the rust.

 

[fishonjazz]

Don't be too sad doe... when was the last time we were healthy? I think he will need a 10 game run of normal playing time to shake the rust.

Plus I'm really excited to see mitchell, and exum and I like hood and ingles....
At least it isnt Roger braille, Richard jefferson, randy foye (though I kinda liked him), cj miles, Josh howard, earl watson...... that list pisses me off. None of the current guys who will get his minutes will piss me off and plus add in burks string of injuries, and I get it.

 

[fishonjazz]

Still wouldn't shock me if burks killed it in camp/practices and played his way into the rotation of the team when healthy though. I still beleive in his talent and attitude and confidence.... just not so much his body.

 

[ruca]

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[Thee Jazz Fan]

This.

Last year Hood averaged 12.7 ppg

Gobert averaged 14.0 ppg

I think he will see a ppg increase from both of them.

I say 18.5 ppg for Gobert and 17ppg for Hood. Favors will have about 13 ppg imo.

Hood was a bit discarded in the offense due to being behind Hayward and Hill in the offensive pecking order. Hood will have the ball in hand a ton more with a pass first pg. hood should thrive hopefully