Why doesn't infraction lead to decreased Rep power?

colton

All Around Nice Guy
Staff member
You should bump your rep power up to 47 to match PKM, and then neg him. Might get his/her/it's attention more.
Holy cow, is PKM that much higher in rep power than Jason & me? Time to do some rep rebalancing, I guess.
 

colton

All Around Nice Guy
Staff member
I was tweaking the rep setting, then forgot what I started with. So I'm not sure how close these are to what we've been using but here are the new settings:

1 rep pt for every 100 days since registering (I believe the old value was every 130-150 days, something like that)
1 rep pt for every 5000 posts (I don't know what the old value was... perhaps every 3000-4000 posts, something like that)
1 rep pt for every 300 pts of reputation (this is lower than the old value, but I don't have a good idea of what the old value was)
 

colton

All Around Nice Guy
Staff member
What does the formula look like now? The older posters seem to have benefited.
Yeah, I decreased the effect of post count. I increased the effect of time-since-registering (which helps older posters). And I increased the effect of overall reputation.
 

nightmare3983

First BF League CHAMP
Contributor
I was tweaking the rep setting, then forgot what I started with. So I'm not sure how close these are to what we've been using but here are the new settings:

1 rep pt for every 100 days since registering (I believe the old value was every 130-150 days, something like that)
1 rep pt for every 5000 posts (I don't know what the old value was... perhaps every 3000-4000 posts, something like that)
1 rep pt for every 300 pts of reputation (this is lower than the old value, but I don't have a good idea of what the old value was)
Boo! So much for ever catching anyone that's ahead of me. FYI, the last settings I was aware of were:

1 rep power point for every 141 days and 2500 posts. I don't remember the reputation though.
 

franklin

Well-Known Member
Holy cow, is PKM that much higher in rep power than Jason & me? Time to do some rep rebalancing, I guess.
Can we start out at zero again? I think it helps with newer posters feeling more empowered/less marginalized due to a stupid e-score. Same Batman and Robin will end up on top again in a few short months anyway.

 

nightmare3983

First BF League CHAMP
Contributor
Can we start out at zero again? I think it helps with newer posters feeling more empowered/less marginalized due to a stupid e-score. Same Batman and Robin will end up on top again in a few short months anyway.

What would that make me if I'm a few rungs below Batman and Robin?
 

colton

All Around Nice Guy
Staff member
Boo! So much for ever catching anyone that's ahead of me. FYI, the last settings I was aware of were:

1 rep power point for every 141 days and 2500 posts. I don't remember the reputation though.
The major factor is your own # of reputation points. (That's different than rep power.) You can still catch people by getting lots of rep points.
 

nightmare3983

First BF League CHAMP
Contributor
The major factor is your own # of reputation points. (That's different than rep power.) You can still catch people by getting lots of rep points.
It'll take even longer now is all I'm saying since most of the people with more rep power got points added while I stayed the same. But I'm persistent in the pursuit of pointless acheivements, so it's all good.
 

UGLI baby

Well-Known Member
If you just take away the part of the formula where you get rewarded for how long you've been a member, it'll give new members the chance to catch up if they are worthy.

If you think about it, the system as it stands is very similar to the Jazz. Blindly rewarding the veterans...

I think the rep system should just be based 100% on how many rep points you've received, giving no weight to the amount of time youve been a member, or how many posts you have.

It's a little hard for me to see how anything else makes sense to be honest.
 

ONE LOVE

#Baby_Talk
Staff member
Neg rep doesn't make sense to me - because if a comment is bad enough to be an infraction then the mods can deal with it anyway. Furthermore, neg rep can lead to posters abusing that power in a negative way, and there's nothing the mods can do because it's not against the rule to simply neg rep someone. This loophole should be closed.

Pos rep is good. Neg rep should be abolish IMO.
 

Dr. Jones

In pursuit of #9
Contributor
You should bump your rep power up to 47 to match PKM, and then neg him. Might get his/her/it's attention more.
What would you like to do with my attention once it's received?

Holy cow, is PKM that much higher in rep power than Jason & me? Time to do some rep rebalancing, I guess.
Or you could just post better?

I was tweaking the rep setting, then forgot what I started with. So I'm not sure how close these are to what we've been using but here are the new settings:

1 rep pt for every 100 days since registering (I believe the old value was every 130-150 days, something like that)
1 rep pt for every 5000 posts (I don't know what the old value was... perhaps every 3000-4000 posts, something like that)
1 rep pt for every 300 pts of reputation (this is lower than the old value, but I don't have a good idea of what the old value was)
Let me preface with I don't care how the formulas are set.
Having said that, if I owned the site I would do it EXACTLY the opposite. From a business perspective the formulas seem dumb.
I would give the most rep power for posts, the second most for rep points, and the least for time served. The reason is you want to reward site members for visiting frequently, turning over pages, and creating maximum site activity. Rep points and time served does neither of these directly. Though rep points does indirectly because of a, presumably, better site content.

Would truly enjoy Admin response to this.. just out of curiosity.
 

colton

All Around Nice Guy
Staff member
Or you could just post better?
No, doesn't work like that. Rep for admins is set to a constant value which I periodically adjust but which otherwise doesn't change over time, rather than using the formula like everyone else.


Let me preface with I don't care how the formulas are set.
Having said that, if I owned the site I would do it EXACTLY the opposite. From a business perspective the formulas seem dumb.
I would give the most rep power for posts, the second most for rep points, and the least for time served. The reason is you want to reward site members for visiting frequently, turning over pages, and creating maximum site activity. Rep points and time served does neither of these directly. Though rep points does indirectly because of a, presumably, better site content.

Would truly enjoy Admin response to this.. just out of curiosity.
You're assuming Jason's in this to make money. He isn't--he's in this to make a better community. Or so it seems to me. That's why I decided to reward rep level more and post count less (as per your bolded statement above). As far as time served, I just decided it was worth "rewarding" those who have been with us the longest.
 

Dr. Jones

In pursuit of #9
Contributor
No, doesn't work like that. Rep for admins is set to a constant value which I periodically adjust but which otherwise doesn't change over time, rather than using the formula like everyone else.

Oh. Didn't know that.

You're assuming Jason's in this to make money. He isn't--he's in this to make a better community. Or so it seems to me. That's why I decided to reward rep level more and post count less (as per your bolded statement above). As far as time served, I just decided it was worth "rewarding" those who have been with us the longest.
Not buying that completely. Some yes. If not interested in money, why have ads at all? Want to create the best community possible? Money helps.
I'm sure Jason has far more pure objectives than money alone .. but it's incredibly naïve to own/run the site without concern for revenue.

No disrespect intended, at all.
 
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