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Why Lauri Will Be Here a While - Renegotiate and Extend

Handlogten's Heros said:
Please tell me the guys that will state the most important thing to them is the money... Everyone says the most important thing is winning and basketball. It may be enough money for Lauri but I promise you there is a lot of good he can do for others with that dough... even if he doesn't want it for himself.





The tank only lasts 20 games... so he will see where we are and sign up for more. The money is not the "only" thing, but the fact that we can offer the money (which is also a sign of respect) an he is content here... it will be a no brainer. It won't just be money... its respect, stability, and as good of a situation as he can find elsewhere.
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Yeah we long ago passed the point that money is the big driver. If a player can get 36 mill per year in a winning situation vs 40 mill in a crappy one they are likely to take the 36 mill, as that 4 mill isn't enough to move the needle. The money is so ridiculous that teams cannot compete anymore on the size of the contract, so players will go where they want because they recognize that realistically the difference between a 130 mill contract and a 140 million one is trivial. Once they get to that level of money the situation they are in becomes a bigger driver, so they chase rings.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Yeah we long ago passed the point that money is the big driver. If a player can get 36 mill per year in a winning situation vs 40 mill in a crappy one they are likely to take the 36 mill, as that 4 mill isn't enough to move the needle. The money is so ridiculous that teams cannot compete anymore on the size of the contract, so players will go where they want because they recognize that realistically the difference between a 130 mill contract and a 140 million one is trivial. Once they get to that level of money the situation they are in becomes a bigger driver, so they chase rings.
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Yes... but the delta between 18M and 200M+ is enough to drive decisions. More guys take 100% of the money they could earn then work their way to competitive situations than dudes taking pay cuts.

The money is not trivial... it might be viewed as secondary, but we have a chance for him to be a featured guy on a winner. It will be hard for him to find a place better that lines up with the money, team, etc.

I also think the fact he has young children means stability would be important and Utah is a great market for dudes with families. He's not chasing limelight in some big city imo.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Yes... but the delta between 18M and 200M+ is enough to drive decisions. More guys take 100% of the money they could earn then work their way to competitive situations than dudes taking pay cuts.

The money is not trivial... it might be viewed as secondary, but we have a chance for him to be a featured guy on a winner. It will be hard for him to find a place better that lines up with the money, team, etc.

I also think the fact he has young children means stability would be important and Utah is a great market for dudes with families. He's not chasing limelight in some big city imo.
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That is the point. That he is in a good situation so the money isn't as important considering that it is close enough, and big enough to not make that much of a difference in the decision. I think he will see this as his best shot at making something lasting and he will stick around, especially with DA running the show. The only concern I have is that we attempt to low-ball him, which could drive a wedge like it did with Hayward when we let the market set his rate instead of just giving him a full extension.
 
LogGrad98 said:
That is the point. That he is in a good situation so the money isn't as important considering that it is close enough, and big enough to not make that much of a difference in the decision. I think he will see this as his best shot at making something lasting and he will stick around, especially with DA running the show. The only concern I have is that we attempt to low-ball him, which could drive a wedge like it did with Hayward when we let the market set his rate instead of just giving him a full extension.
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And I think the best scenario is we give him $10M-15M of space and then the full 150% raise the following year to bring him to the max. I think there is middle ground there and it will give us some room to add around him and will give him a gold star for helping out the team.

I think it is more likely we screw it up by getting cheap than he will by turning down something fair. So I do agree there.
 
I personally think Lauri will not move unless traded.

Four reasons in no particular order:
- He is a small city kid and that is also reflected in his personality (his home town of Jyväskylä has 145k residents). SLC seems a fit.
- He has two kids of his own, and his family is very important to him. Likely doesnt want to unroot his familty to chase glory. His older kid is gonna start school during this contract.
- He is loyal and committed to the club. That wont change in an instance, especially since we are likely gonna have stability in the organisation (Hardy, DA, Zanik... all likely gonna be here for a long time)
- Will Hardy (as long as he is the coach) is someone Lauri seems to enjoy playing for a lot, and he also helped unlock Lauri and has helped him grow a lot.
 
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