Will Hardy Extension
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So what I said...
You have Association expectations in a G-League world. It's a personification of the unseen.
Unsure how good of a coach he is. I think those really supporting him may interpret that as being a hater or not acknowledging reality. I genuinely don't know. Quin is a good example that he was seen as an absolute savant until we got exposed to his patterns in deeper into the competition. It's hard to prognosticate success at the highest levels with what we see in regular competition. I'm hoping he is the real thing because us winning a title would in no small part be tied to that.
That's the "thank you" for Will's efforts this year. It sure wasn't easy losing that many games with this roster.
He seems like a good coach in general, but it's really hard to know how good he will be at the highest level when the stakes and pressure are much higher.
He seems like a good coach in general, but it's really hard to know how good he will be at the highest level when the stakes and pressure are much higher.
I mean this kind of extension kind of signals they think extremely high of him
I'm pretty sure he is a good enough coach to get us to the post season (Top 6 seed) with some reasonable talent upgrades. It's impossible to know if we could have post season success with him until we get there.
Agreed... it still doesn't mean they are right about it. I don't mind this extension... I think he's done a good job when we were trying to win and... he did a arguably even better job when we were trying to lose. It's no money out of my pocket and it's no money on the Jazz' salary cap. So... whatever...
Yep. We have also seen inconsistent player development from him. Kessler and Ochai both regressed significantly their second season and we saw Key stagnate last year rather than get better. It was nice to see Brice start to build some consistency at the end of the year but I think that has more to do with him being force fed minutes rather than Hardy actually liking him. Hopefully I am wrong about that because I think he can be a 6th man caliber scorer off the bench.
HadAnEffectHere
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Feels like a bribe to get him to be willing to tank a lot more.
In terms of results, Hardy has shown literally nothing, but I'm not sure what could be expected on a team trying to lose. Back to back last place finishes in defense with Walker Kessler (and Kris Dunn one year as well!) is basically unprecedented. You don't finish last in defense with a serviceable defensive center. His schemes are absolutely terrible, but the bigger issue is that none of his guys play hard because the team has told them to lose so idk.
In terms of results, Hardy has shown literally nothing, but I'm not sure what could be expected on a team trying to lose. Back to back last place finishes in defense with Walker Kessler (and Kris Dunn one year as well!) is basically unprecedented. You don't finish last in defense with a serviceable defensive center. His schemes are absolutely terrible, but the bigger issue is that none of his guys play hard because the team has told them to lose so idk.
I guess I just trust DA to know a coach when he sees one.
And for the questions on defense, plenty of teams hire a "defensive coordinator" type coach to make their defense what it is.
HadAnEffectHere
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Okay, but he lead the team to back to back last place finishes and none of the guys ever play hard for him.
He had very few opportunities to show much over the last three years but the results are really bad, lol.
Good move for Hardy as he was being pretty obviously set up as a scapegoat for Ainge to use and the Jazz have basically ruined his career for other teams. But a six year extension coming off back to back last place finishes in defense, an 18 win season, and dozens of press conferences complaining that he can't get young players to try is completely unprecedented.