Will there be a season next year?

[colton]

I had read from multiple sources that yesterday's meeting between owners and players would be the defining meeting in determining whether or not there would be a season next year. So how did it go?

https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsjazznotes/52049159-62/meeting-nba-silver-stern.html.csp

Very interesting interview. It's good that the players said, "We'll think about it," and scheduled another meeting rather than rejecting the proposal outright.

One particularly interesting thing is what Stern is calling a "flex cap" seems like a hard cap to me. That is, it sounded exactly like the present system--a salary cap with exceptions--but with a hard cap in place of the luxury tax barrier. The players will almost certainly consider that to be a hard cap, and it's tough to see them going for it.

Another interesting thing is the owners' guarantee that the players (as a whole) will continue to make at least as much as they did this past year. Maybe that, combined with the owners' concession of keeping the guaranteed contracts, will be enough to get the players to accept the "flex cap".

Keep your fingers crossed for Friday's follow-up meeting.

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

I am betting that part of the season is missed like the 50 game season about 12 years ago. Both sides start watching a season die right in front of them they will make a deal.

 

[mellow]

Colton you are more generous to the players than I would be. I don't like that a few players and thier lap dogs are controlling the discusions at the expense of the majority of players, the fans, and tax-payers subsidizing the NBA through arena funding. But this is the beast that Stern created thirty years ago when he decided to market the stars and bend the game around them. Sterns approach increased the popularity of the sport, but this is the price he has to pay. Sadly, the players will win this CBA just like they won the last two, and World Wide Wes and a few sports agents will increase thier control of the league by putting more of thier players where they decide. The result will be 10 super franchises and 22 Washington Generals, or a return to the NBA and ABA.

 

[UB]

not if we don't draft Jimmar.

 

[vslice02]

I'm pretty sure the season won't start on time. Probably not as late as February (like in '99) but also probably not until Dec, maybe Jan when the PA begins to grow desperate. Sounds like the owners are willing to concede gauranteed contracts to the PA, doubt they'll bend on a hard cap though.

 

[Archie Moses]

After listening to Derek Fisher and his tone of voice, no, there will not be a season next year. Stern doesn't seem to notice though.

 

[carolinajazz]

Will there be a season next year? I certainly hope not! The NBA is in the most need of a salary transformation than any other sport. Paying these hip hop clowns that much guaranteed money for that long is, well, in the words of a most famous hip hopper.....LUDICROUS!!!

 

[mellow]

Owners are going to cave, because they know the players can ultimatley start thier own league. The current structure makes the owners a third, and unnessesary wheel. If they started thier own league, the players would lose the teams names, and history of the NBA but does anyone really believe the players care about that compared to making more money?

Capital? Shaq earned more than $250 Million from salary alone during his career, Christian Latner earned more than 80 million. Players (recent past and current) have capital, so do sports agencies with 20-30 players. It would not take much to start a new league. They might have to rent arenas from colleges at first while the NBA owners are stuck paying rent in empty buildings.

The players and thier agents (mostly the agents) would control everything, just the way they want, and the way the 'sport' has been gravitating for the past 15 years.

 

[candrew]

I don't know about starting their own league - you already have plenty of other leagues in Europe where they can enjoy the favorable exchange rate for the Euro and no start-up expenses.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

Will there be a season next year? I certainly hope not! The NBA is in the most need of a salary transformation than any other sport. Paying these hip hop clowns that much guaranteed money for that long is, well, in the words of a most famous hip hopper.....LUDICROUS!!!

Yeah, yeah we get it, you don't like hip- hoppers. This one note song is getting old and still has the stench of racism. The glory days when white men played basketball "the old school way" are over. Get used to it, things change, and they're unlikely to go back to the "good old days."

As a general question, am I the only one who finds false nostalgia incredibly irritating?

 

[Deleted member 365]

Does the CBA also address the issue of flopping?

I'm so tired of jokes like Fisher flopping on every single play!

 

[margodydek]

Owners are going to cave, because they know the players can ultimatley start thier own league. The current structure makes the owners a third, and unnessesary wheel. If they started thier own league, the players would lose the teams names, and history of the NBA but does anyone really believe the players care about that compared to making more money?

Capital? Shaq earned more than $250 Million from salary alone during his career, Christian Latner earned more than 80 million. Players (recent past and current) have capital, so do sports agencies with 20-30 players. It would not take much to start a new league. They might have to rent arenas from colleges at first while the NBA owners are stuck paying rent in empty buildings.

The players and thier agents (mostly the agents) would control everything, just the way they want, and the way the 'sport' has been gravitating for the past 15 years.

This is probably the stupidest post I've seen on here. Shaq may have earned $250MM, but he's probably spent $242MM. If there is a lockout I bet 80% of the players are going to be in a pinch after about 6 months. The owners have all the control. If the players don't agree to the terms before July 1st, then the owners are going to go for the jugular and the players will regret not coming to an agreement earlier.