Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?

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Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?

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  2. No

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  1. gandalfe

    gandalfe Well-Known Member

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    The book, not the movie.
     
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  2. idestroyedthetoilet

    idestroyedthetoilet Well-Known Member

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    That gets to question 2. Why? What obligation?
     
  3. gandalfe

    gandalfe Well-Known Member

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    You're asking what obligation the president has to not break the law?

    "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
     
  4. silesian

    silesian Well-Known Member

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    The object function of the algorithm would be to minimize the border distance. The map that minimizes the border distance wins. Bias is nonexistent and irrelevant.

    If you want to engineer for urban vs rural, black vs white, lgbtq vs straight, whatever, have at it. I think it’s unnecessary election engineering that devolves into gerrymandering no matter how pure your intentions. I’d just like to elect the best candidate.
     
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  5. framer

    framer Well-Known Member

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    You are making the assumption that there is a "best" candidate. That is generally in the eye of the beholder. What I want is a candidate that represents the needs of a vast majority of the people in the district. If you don't take communities of interest into account when drawing up districts, you can effectively disenfranchise large swaths of the population.

    I mean look at the middle East. After the World Wars, Europeans just arbitrarily drew lines that might have looked good on paper, but locked in conflict for the next 100 years. Too many large groups that were shut out from unified representation.

    Probably the best option would be to have a computer spit out 5 models based on a certain formula and have a statewide referendum vote in choosing 1 of the 5 to go with.
     
  6. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    The FEC Chair:



    People asking if the president has any obligation to report foreign interference in our elections, really need to read up on the basic rules of our elections.
     
  7. silesian

    silesian Well-Known Member

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    Not the best analogy.

    Sykes and Picot's lines after WW1 were not arbitrary. They were designed to maximize the imperial influence of the British and French empires.

    The chances of State A District 7 going to war over State A District 8 over a border dispute are fairly remote.
     
  8. silesian

    silesian Well-Known Member

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    You are making an assumption that the "best" candidate is one that "represents the needs of a vast majority of the people in the district"

    Which I might agree with.

    What we are talking about is not that, but how the "district" is defined.

    If you leave the politicians to decide these matters, let's not be shocked when the borders continue to be driven by..... wait for it..... politics.
     
  9. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Can you prove it is a false equivalence? ;)

    Would that be a false equivalence equivalence?
     
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  10. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    Trump’s fear of Putin is so palpable

     
  11. Joe Bagadonuts

    Joe Bagadonuts Well-Known Member

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    Your interpretation is 100% wrong. The anti-Trump crowd is so unhinged it's indescribable. Their expertise in mis-interperetation has been taken to new levels. I swear there must be some sort of contest to try to take the overreaction and idiocy to the highest possible level. These people are exhausting to listen to. Trump has many faults, but he is not the anti-Christ the left is constantly trying to paint him as. It's exhausting even listening to the insanity.
     
  12. gandalfe

    gandalfe Well-Known Member

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    Just for the lulz.

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  13. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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  14. Gameface

    Gameface All-Jazzfanz First Team! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Honestly kind of sounds like a setup. Emails were sent to his infowars media company email account that had child porn images attached to them, but the FBI says they have no evidence he opened them and no evidence that he ever sent child porn to anyone.

    They guy is straight up garbage but so far I'm not buying the child porn thing.
     
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  15. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    If so I hope they track down the people sending them and bust them for child porn and throw them over board.

    Got to prove it though.
     
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  16. Red

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    I agree Trump does have many faults. Including being a coward, IMO. I'm willing to label him that because he can never admit to a mistake. I take it he regards such admissions a sign of weakness, but I've always felt admitting when one is wrong is a sign of strength. Getting him to finally admit Obama was born in the United States was like pulling teeth, and even though the Central Park Five were released from prison after the real rapist confessed, Trump still won't apologize or admit error in calling for the death penalty in their case, at the time. Well, we know from his tweets and attacks that Trump has the temperament of a bully, and bullies are cowards at heart.....

     
  17. Zombie

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    Another allegation of sexual assault against Trump came out today.

    His response.
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    Note, contrary to Trump's claim of them having never met, there is a picture of them meeting in the article.
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  18. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    Was just about to post this story.

    It just never ends with this guy. We empowered the trashiest most incompetent person in our country in its most important position.

    Reason number 12,874,892,997,734,230 why he needs to go.

    Also, imagine the fit that righties would be having if this were Clinton or Obama.
     
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  19. Red

    Red Well-Known Member

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  20. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    Should’ve happened months ago. Mueller should’ve known that few Americans would read this report. Hell, hardly any read anything longer than 280 characters without pictures anymore. And for someone who’s seen the political environment decline in DC, he couldn’t see republicans refusing to even read his report? He’s a man about 40 years out of time.

    What do you think his testimony will have? Will it finally convince Pelosi to begin impeachment hearings?

    Also, what manufactured crisis will trump do on this day to distract from Mueller?

    A. Another North Korea Summit
    B. Attack Iran
    C. Something in relation to immigration
    D. Attack some major health care/entitlement program
     

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