Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?

[Hotdog]

Finding that trump isn’t loyal to America but is using his office to benefit himself financially isn’t hard. We don’t need his tax returns to show that. Open up a damn newspaper on any day of the week that ends with “Day.”

You just proved right there where you get your information. From liberal biased newspapers.

Busted

Now try using your own brain for once. All the evidence points to this being a hoax.

 

[Jazzta]

Finding that trump isn’t loyal to America but is using his office to benefit himself financially isn’t hard. We don’t need his tax returns to show that. Open up a damn newspaper on any day of the week that ends with “Day.”

Amen. Thriller, please accept my apologies for having voted for Trump.

 

[fishonjazz]

I've always maintained that the Republicans would be victorious. Well before anyone here.

Congrats sheep. Doesn't change your contradictions that you spew

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[fishonjazz]

You just proved right there where you get your information. From liberal biased newspapers.

Busted

Now try using your own brain for once. All the evidence points to this being a hoax.

Baaaaaa! Baaaaaa!

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[Hotdog]

Congrats sheep. Doesn't change your contradictions that you spew

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[The Thriller]

You just proved right there where you get your information. From liberal biased newspapers.

Busted

Now try using your own brain for once. All the evidence points to this being a hoax.

What evidence points to this being a hoax?

This has been the worst “political conspiracy” I’ve seen in my lifetime. Hell, even the OJ Simpson case wasn’t this clear.

* Russians did what they’ve been doing for the past 70 years, spying, stealing, and disinformation to destabilize western democracies.

* They hacked the DNC and fed stolen data to hurt the candidate who would’ve hurt them the most. They helped trump win because... well have any of you seen his twitter feed over the past 3 years? He’s an imbecile. Why wouldn’t Putin want him as our leader? Can anyone thing of a bigger idiot to run a country than Donald trump?

* The Russian bots I see daily on twitter gives me first hand experience of Russian disinformation.

* The intelligence community, FBI, and Mueller report all provide evidence and motives of the hacking.

I don’t think this case could be more transparent. I guess we could always find a video of Putin admitting to all of this? But I’m guessing the Trumpers on here would still deny it.

 

[fishonjazz]

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Yep. Back to your flock

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[TheStormofWar]

You just proved right there where you get your information. From liberal biased newspapers.

Busted

Now try using your own brain for once. All the evidence points to this being a hoax.

Are you for real with this? Legitimate question.

 

[One Brow]

Actually, Hillary Clinton may become relevant. In July 2016, the DNC rigged the primaries to favor Clinton over Bernie Sanders.

Did you read these links before you posted them? Did you understand they undercut the very argument you are trying to make?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...rren-bernie-sanders-democratic-primary-rigged

But there’s a larger context that is more important than what happened at the DNC and is getting lost in the back and forth over joint fundraising agreements and staffing power. The Democratic Party — which is a different and more complex entity than the Democratic National Committee, and which includes elected officials and funders and activists and interest groups who are not expected to be neutral in primaries — really did favor Hillary Clinton from early in the campaign, and really did shape the race in consequential ways.

The irony is that Sanders was a prime beneficiary of this bias, not a victim of it. The losers were potential candidates like Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Warren, or Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper — and, thus, Democratic primary voters, who ended up with few choices in 2016. To the extent Democratic primary voters feel like they were denied a broad range of candidates in 2016, and that party officials tried to clear the field to coronate Clinton, well, they’re right.

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-...rman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/

This assumption of a plaintiff’s allegation is the general legal standard in the motion to dismiss stage of any lawsuit. The allegations contained in the complaint must be taken as true unless they are merely conclusory allegations or are invalid on their face.

The order then explained why the lawsuit would be dismissed. “The Court must now decide whether Plaintiffs have suffered a concrete injury particularized to them, or one certainly impending, that is traceable to the DNC and its former chair’s conduct—the keys to entering federal court. The Court holds that they have not.”

When this leaked out, it caused an uproar. That's when the DNC first claimed their servers were hacked and they started blaming the Russians for doing it. The Mueller investigation should have started by analyzing the DNC server that was allegedly hacked, yet no one on either side mentioned it in the hearings this week.

Will you blame the White House/DOJ for limiting the scope of Mueller's investigation in that regard?

 

[One Brow]

Lets just stick to this dumpster fire that is the Russia investigation and Mueller's testimony.

Perhaps when you do that with truth instead of lies, it will be worth responding to.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

"The Thriller, post: 1802256, member: 365"]What evidence points to this being a hoax?

A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack
Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all, but a leak—an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system.
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/

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Mr. Mueller: Was the DNC Server Actually Hacked by the Russians?
https://spectator.org/mr-mueller-was-the-dnc-server-actually-hacked-by-the-russians/

"But, in their coverage, the mainstream media have downplayed the very odd behavior of the DNC, the putative target of the alleged hack. For, when the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI learned of the hacking claim, they asked to examine the server.

And the DNC refused."

* * *

Intel Vets Challenge ‘Russia Hack’ Evidence
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/intel-vets-challenge-russia-hack-evidence/

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Guccifer 2.0 NGP/VAN Metadata Analysis
https://theforensicator.wordpress.com/guccifer-2-ngp-van-metadata-analysis/

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

[QUOTE"One Brow, post: 1802270, member: 74"]Did you read these links before you posted them? Did you understand they undercut the very argument you are trying to make?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...rren-bernie-sanders-democratic-primary-rigged

Will you blame the White House/DOJ for limiting the scope of Mueller's investigation in that regard?[/QUOTE]


The White House didn't limit the scope of Mueller's investigation. Comey's FBI did. Now the Department of Justice is investigating the origins of the Russia premise by interviewing members of the CIA and FBI. The White House is expanding the investigation.

Regarding the court case, the plaintiffs couldn't connect the claim of favoritism for Hillary to a request for relief or compensation from the DNC. The legal nexus was inadequate. However, the case itself brought forth concrete evidence that the DNC had an agreement to support Hillary before the primary process even began. The DNC didn't deny this, but rather asserted that it was their right to do so.

When emails leaked and provided further evidence of Hillary's agreement with the DNC, that's when the DNC claimed that they were hacked by the Russians and claimed that the Russians had a vendetta against Hillary. That's where the whole "Russia hates Hillary" motif originated.

 

[Jazzta]

Are you for real with this? Legitimate question.

I don’t think he even knows?

 

[Hotdog]

Are you for real with this? Legitimate question.

Which part?

 

[Hotdog]

I don’t think he even knows?

I dont think you the difference between a statement and a question.

 

[TheStormofWar]

Guccifer 2.0 NGP/VAN Metadata Analysis
https://theforensicator.wordpress.com/guccifer-2-ngp-van-metadata-analysis/

Speaking as someone who works in the IT industry in a security capacity, I'm calling bullcrap on this. Last thing you want to do in any digital forensic analysis is to alter the data. That's the very first thing they did when they CHANGED THE TIMESTAMP ON THE FILE EXTRACTION.

n this case, we need to adjust the .7z file times to reflect Eastern Time. Something like this command if you are on the West Coast (using Cygwin) will make the adjustment.
find . -exec touch -m -r {} -d '+3 hour' {} \;
The .rar files can be unpacked normally because they will appear with the same times as shown in the archive.

I stopped reading after that.

 

[One Brow]

The White House didn't limit the scope of Mueller's investigation. Comey's FBI did. Now the Department of Justice is investigating the origins of the Russia premise by interviewing members of the CIA and FBI. The White House is expanding the investigation.

You do understand that Comey worked for the DOJ and the White House, right? It's good to know you don't find limiting the scope of the independant prosecutor, and than expanding the scope of your own guy, is at all suspicious.

However, the case itself brought forth concrete evidence that the DNC had an agreement to support Hillary before the primary process even began. The DNC didn't deny this, but rather asserted that it was their right to do so.

Sure. Clinton got what she paid for, except it didn't hurt Sanders, mostly other candidates.

When emails leaked and provided further evidence of Hillary's agreement with the DNC, that's when the DNC claimed that they were hacked by the Russians and claimed that the Russians had a vendetta against Hillary. That's where the whole "Russia hates Hillary" motif originated.

They were supposed to claim they were hacked by the Russians before they knew that?

 

[The Thriller]

You do understand that Comey worked for the DOJ and the White House, right? It's good to know you don't find limiting the scope of the independant prosecutor, and than expanding the scope of your own guy, is at all suspicious.



Sure. Clinton got what she paid for, except it didn't hurt Sanders, mostly other candidates.



They were supposed to claim they were hacked by the Russians before they knew that?

So it appears that @Catchall believes the intelligence community and law enforcement are lying or the DNC has a leaker with a time machine.

Again, the nonsense spewed on 4chan and Breitbart is pretty scary stuff.

 

[Jazzta]

I dont think you the difference between a statement and a question.

At least I don’t leave out verbs.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Speaking as someone who works in the IT industry in a security capacity, I'm calling bullcrap on this. Last thing you want to do in any digital forensic analysis is to alter the data. That's the very first thing they did when they CHANGED THE TIMESTAMP ON THE FILE EXTRACTION.

I stopped reading after that.

You can stop reading anytime you like. The analysis drew 7+ conclusions that you want to categorically dismiss on account of one methodology you don't agree with. Suit yourself.