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Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?

Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?

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One Brow said:
Actually, it's the combination of the difficulties faking the moon pictures, the complete lack of a confession by any of the supposed thousands of co-conspirators, and that even today you can reflect a laser beam off a reflector men put on the moon.
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ha ha. You been there? You saw that reflector? You've seen the laser? Well, this is a useless "proof"..... any other moon mission or an unmanned mission could place a "reflector". Hell, why do you even need an artificial reflector?

In a real "conspiracy" of any importance, the job must be designed so no one can prove it. You break out the job into thousands of parts. You don't tell anyone what is going on, or why. You pay good money, you lie to everybody.

Actually, it's peace of mind knowing neither you nor Game have a clue about stuff like this.

Occam's Razor is still on the side of the movie job.
 
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str8line said:
If he would make **** up(lie), like yourself or Trump, it would be easy to answer questions, but he's honest and honest people sometimes forget, especially when they have as much to remember as he does.
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I do make up a lot of stuff.... but I think it's obvious, so why should you care?
 
Red said:
Doesn't sound like you're that in love with it.....
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This question actually goes, philosophically, to a very deep level.

I don't know if humans ever really get it right......seriously....

Most people love a certain idea or two.... maybe a set.... they believe as absolutely beyond dispute. Scientists sometimes go to extraordinary lengths to assemble convincing ensembles of observations and "facts" to prove it.... others do the same **** and say "Yay". But every hundred years or so, someone comes along with some new equipment, maybe a new concept, or finds some new circumstances, and we still have to modify that "truth".

The difference you and 8 are a bit too preoccupied with seems to be a kind of truth you love regardless.

And it's not uncommon for committed "truthers" to say doubters or mockers are "Liars".


In ProgressiveTown….. anyone who considers social progress to be some kind of cause worthy of revolution, it's actually considered to be a commendable tactic to just shout down opposition with any convenient slam.... and Liar seems to be the most effective term generally for the job.

So, perhaps I should take your saying stuff like this as a compliment....

But whatever..... while "My Truth" is what some people seek, I'll be quite pleased when I realize something I didn't know before. I'll call that the "truth" I love, for as long as it lasts…..
 
babe said:
I do make up a lot of stuff.... but I think it's obvious, so why should you care?
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I actually don't have what it takes to "make the case" to disprove the Moon Landing in absolute scientific terms, of course. To do that, I'd need to see the whole program from start to finish, do in-depth research on every person employed, even in remote production facilities.

But official accounts..... news accounts..... and thousands of workers' day to day recollections ….. can not justify suppressing the questions.....
 
I lived through this whole thing. I was in a science family.... eight Ph.D. scientists older brothers. Not one of them disputes it. Our father was a high-level manager directly supplying the hardware it took.

It's fun to wonder. Van Allen Radiation, and the lunar dust and rocks.... and the amount of fuel it would take to get off the Moon..... pretty unbelievable.

But if we did the movie for reals..... that would be just about as impossible. Just not absolutely impossible.
 
DasJazz said:
So given that Hillary accepted help from a foreign agent to cook all of this stuff up, i.e. the Steele Dossier, that would mean she engaged in criminal activity, correct?
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And Trump hired Cambridge Analytica (British). Both are perfectly legal. And the Republican propaganda machine knows this. They also know that they can convince totally gullible trump supporters of anything.

Don’t believe me? Here is what the Republican controlled house intel committee wrote in 2016: “Under current federal election law, foreigners are prohibited from making contributions or donations in connection with any campaign in the United States. However, it is not illegal to contract with a foreign person or foreign entity for services, including conducting opposition research on a U.S. campaign”

Conflating this with Russian government sponsored election interference is 100% idiocy.
 
Some years ago I used the movie "Fly Away Home" as my sleeper..... meaning I had to get some sleep and that would absolutely knock me out..... 9/10 I wouldn't make it past the opening song..... but hey, the guy had his imitation lunar lander in his shop, right along with his amazing fridge. But that wasn't the manned lunar lander. Lessee.... Beryllium/Aluminum alloy all the way. hydrogen/oxygen fuel. Lander not shielded.... no atmosphere.... gravity a lot less than Earth. Only had to get up high enough to dock with the orbiter.... but hey pretty tricky shooting....

I think we need composites and nuclear rockets to really do the job.
 
silesian said:
And Trump hired Cambridge Analytica (British). Both are perfectly legal. And the Republican propaganda machine knows this. They also know that they can convince totally gullible trump supporters of anything.

Don’t believe me? Here is what the Republican controlled house intel committee wrote in 2016: “Under current federal election law, foreigners are prohibited from making contributions or donations in connection with any campaign in the United States. However, it is not illegal to contract with a foreign person or foreign entity for services, including conducting opposition research on a U.S. campaign”

Conflating this with Russian government sponsored election interference is 100% idiocy.
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I'd be more concerned with the Brit collusion than the Russian collusion any day. But we have a feckless FEC. In the old days when I was on Tribtalk, the Aussie moneybag was always saying she was contributing to Mitt. I'm sure there are millions of ordinary people pitching in our elections, and every bigshot on the globe. It is, after all, really an election for the control of the principal UN cop.

This is the new world. Globalism. I frankly don't believe any progressive gives a crap about anything, unless it can bring Trump down. MAGA has really driven the bigballsies nuts.
 
babe said:
I actually don't have what it takes to "make the case" to disprove the Moon Landing in absolute scientific terms, of course. To do that, I'd need to see the whole program from start to finish, do in-depth research on every person employed, even in remote production facilities.

But official accounts..... news accounts..... and thousands of workers' day to day recollections ….. can not justify suppressing the questions.....
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Do it babe, you got this!
 
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