What's new
By:

Woj: Don to the Cavs for Markkanen, Agbaji, Sexton, three unprotected 1sts, two swaps, and a partridge in a pear tree.

See... this is EXACTLY what I meant. The Knicks had the most they can offer... but ONLY if they actually offered some of the good stuff they had. They pretty much offered the worst picks, the worst young players and relied that volume would make them the favorites. This is NOT how things work. If you look at what Ainge did with the Gobert trade it was obvious he was prioritizing picks that can actually turn into something good(unprotected picks far in the future + pick swaps far in the future). What did the Knicks reported offer include - early picks with limited potential for high end upside. What did the Cleveland offer include - ALL the unprotected picks they could have offered, two of them in 27 and 29(those are gold) and 2 picks swaps(again the two pick swaps furthest away in the future!!!). Then add this year's lottery pick Ochai Agbaji and a player Ainge seems to love in Sexton(there have been rumors about the Jazz wanting him for 2 months - initially not connected to Mitchell trade but now included in that trade) and this offer become sooooooooooooo much more appealing than what the Knicks were offering.

I love this trade. Au revoir Donovan and have a nice day Leon "Mastermind" Rose.
 
stitches said:
See... this is EXACTLY what I meant. The Knicks had the most they can offer... but ONLY if they actually offered some of the good stuff they had. They pretty much offered the worst picks, the worst young players and relied that volume would make them the favorites. This is NOT how things work. If you look at what Ainge did with the Gobert trade it was obvious he was prioritizing picks that can actually turn into something good(unprotected picks far in the future + pick swaps far in the future). What did the Knicks reported offer include - early picks with limited potential for high end upside. What did the Cleveland offer include - ALL the unprotected picks they could have offered, two of them in 27 and 29(those are gold) and 2 picks swaps(again the two pick swaps furthest away in the future!!!). Then add this year's lottery pick Ochai Agbaji and a player Ainge seems to love in Sexton(there have been rumors about the Jazz wanting him for 2 months - initially not connected to Mitchell trade but now included in that trade) and this offer become sooooooooooooo much more appealing than what the Knicks were offering.

I love this trade. Au revoir Donovan and have a nice day Leon "Mastermind" Rose.
Click to expand...
Yeah, but it required someone to go all in (basically). I underestimated how quickly the Cavs wanted to put the timeline of contention up.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, but it required someone to go all in (basically). I underestimated how quickly the Cavs wanted to put the timeline of contention up.
Click to expand...
Yeah, I think we discussed Cleveland specifically in one of the other threads with you a week or two ago. You can never predict the exact team that will do it, but there are enough teams in the league with promising young cores that at any moment one of them is bound to convince themselves that they are ready and need to make the next step right away. Especially since players like Mitchell and Gobert on such long-term contracts don't actually become available very often. We just managed to find 2 of them in the same off-season. Good job by Ainge.
 
stitches said:
See... this is EXACTLY what I meant. The Knicks had the most they can offer... but ONLY if they actually offered some of the good stuff they had. They pretty much offered the worst picks, the worst young players and relied that volume would make them the favorites. This is NOT how things work. If you look at what Ainge did with the Gobert trade it was obvious he was prioritizing picks that can actually turn into something good(unprotected picks far in the future + pick swaps far in the future). What did the Knicks reported offer include - early picks with limited potential for high end upside. What did the Cleveland offer include - ALL the unprotected picks they could have offered, two of them in 27 and 29(those are gold) and 2 picks swaps(again the two pick swaps furthest away in the future!!!). Then add this year's lottery pick Ochai Agbaji and a player Ainge seems to love in Sexton(there have been rumors about the Jazz wanting him for 2 months - initially not connected to Mitchell trade but now included in that trade) and this offer become sooooooooooooo much more appealing than what the Knicks were offering.

I love this trade. Au revoir Donovan and have a nice day Leon "Mastermind" Rose.
Click to expand...
It was hilarious listening to Knicks podcaster talking about how they could only do 2 unprotecteds and honestly they'd need to keep RJ, Obi, and Grimes... and LA can kick in some picks... I just wanted to yell... We were providing all the value in those scenarios... why the Lakers paying your tab.

You don't get to keep everything you want if you want a star... Someone will go all in and if you only make B- offers then good luck in the lotto.
 
Great trade. Jazz have 13 first rounders between now and 2029. Plus like 3 or 4 pick swaps right? Plus malik beasely, vanderbilt, sexton, markannen, and that big tall dude drafted this summer (cant remember his name) as promising young players. Maybe that THT dude has some promise too. Not a bad haul.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
It was hilarious listening to Knicks podcaster talking about how they could only do 2 unprotecteds and honestly they'd need to keep RJ, Obi, and Grimes... and LA can kick in some picks... I just wanted to yell... We were providing all the value in those scenarios... why the Lakers paying your tab.

You don't get to keep everything you want if you want a star... Someone will go all in and if you only make B- offers then good luck in the lotto.
Click to expand...
Yep. Now if we go and get the Lakers two picks I am pronouncing Danny Ainge a basketball god and renouncing atheism. :D
 
TheGoldStandard said:
I think the Cavs will end up regretting this trade.
Click to expand...
Maybe. At what point do they regret this? I would think only if there are no finals appearance(s) or championships before Donovan leaves or gets injured. The Cavs are definitely one of the best teams in the East now and have the potential to go very far.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top