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[Woj] Donovan Mitchell signs 5/195M max designated rookie extension with the Jazz

Lmao. Your turn is complete. You let it happen so fast. Could have enjoyed him for at least 4 years before turning on him.

You now hate your favorite player, three years in. Hope your schtick was fun.
I don't like him after this. The contract is ********. He earned the contract and the Jazz earned some respect from him for putting him in a great position to succeed from day 1. That contract is nothing but a middle finger to the franchise and fanbase.
 
lol no it’s not. Not at all. Go drink a warm glass of milk or something.
It is. It has a player option, and a trade clause, of which no team is trading for him where he doesn't agree to waive that. You also won't trade for him if he doesn't waive it because obviously he's not re-signing with you. The contract is a middle finger at the franchise that helped make him who he is and hurts his value even in a trade.
 
Totally agree that Mitchell is gone at the end of this new contract, and you would too... I mean, winning like 5 championships in a row would get boring. He wants the nba to stay competitive after this legendary run we are about to have.
 
I don't like him after this. The contract is ********. He earned the contract and the Jazz earned some respect from him for putting him in a great position to succeed from day 1. That contract is nothing but a middle finger to the franchise and fanbase.
What are you talking about? We're talking about Donovan Mitchell and We're the Utah Jazz. We attract nobody in free agency. We draft a star. (The only way we'll acquire talent of his caliber). He literally is not just our star player, he's the face of our franchise and our only chance of pursuing other star talent. You give him what he wants. This is a Christmas present to all Jazz fans!
 
There is no
To conclude:

-Jazz gave a 5 year contract at 25% max cap money,
-gave the eligibility for Donovan to get up to 30% of the cap money if he makes All NBA teams.
-Gave the contract a year earlier for his security not to get injured this last season of his rookie deal and lock in his giant pay day
-gave up a player option which no team had ever done prior because of the top 3 things

The player option+30% eligibility for a 6'1" guard is indefensible by the front office. You give up the PO or the 30% you do not give up both. You are already giving it to him a year before you had to. Oh and by the way, in doing so with Conley's deal coming off next season, you also gave up cap space by giving it to him early, which is gonna be really really important going forward.

Nothing about this deal is beneficial to the Jazz, and Donovan was not walking away form a potential $195 MILLION over a ****ING PLAYER OPTION. What a way to ruin what should have been a great thing by both sides of this negotiatio

To conclude:

-Jazz gave a 5 year contract at 25% max cap money,
-gave the eligibility for Donovan to get up to 30% of the cap money if he makes All NBA teams.
-Gave the contract a year earlier for his security not to get injured this last season of his rookie deal and lock in his giant pay day
-gave up a player option which no team had ever done prior because of the top 3 things

The player option+30% eligibility for a 6'1" guard is indefensible by the front office. You give up the PO or the 30% you do not give up both. You are already giving it to him a year before you had to. Oh and by the way, in doing so with Conley's deal coming off next season, you also gave up cap space by giving it to him early, which is gonna be really really important going forward.

Nothing about this deal is beneficial to the Jazz, and Donovan was not walking away form a potential $195 MILLION over a ****ING PLAYER OPTION. What a way to ruin what should have been a great thing by both sides of this negotiation.
There is no negotiation. You need to understand this. We are Utah. Who the hell is going to sign with us? Nobody. If you disagree, than why haven't we had big signings before? We get talent through the draft. We got lucky with Spida. And with Gobert. A star player isn't paid for just his stats. He's paid on his potential and likeness. The Utah Jazz and every team in the NBA is not just a city/state and a name. Its a brand. You build that brand through players. That player promotes your brand bringing...........?
Yep, other players.
So you pay who can build your brand. We're blessed to have Donovan Mitchell. He's going to attract other players that are winners. We got lucky and drafted a winner. You pay that winner. He brings other winners and guess what happens? You win.
 
I hope so. Someone needs to be able to apply leverage on this FO.
back seat coaching and management.

This is like "The Office of the President-Elect" and "The Office of the Ex-President", or even "The Office of the Bitch-Queen". If it's not your money on the table, or isn't your actual responsibility.......

FO crap doesn't fit anybody else's ideas. Never does, except for uninformed loyalists.

I think Mitchell would be a viable nucleus for other decisions/ building. I hope it's gonna work out that way, but what the hell do I know.
 
Yet another 5 year rookie max extension. WITHOUT a player option.


Both Bam and BI's contracts were done after Donovan's. The player option isn't going to be the rule, except for incompetent front offices who don't use their leverage the only damn time they're ever going to have it. The PO is ridiculously horrible BS.
 
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Yet another 5 year rookie max extension. WITHOUT a player option.


Both Bam and BI's contracts were done after Donovan's. The player option isn't going to be the rule, except for incompetent front offices who don't use their leverage the only damn time they're ever going to have it. The PO is ridiculously horrible BS.

I know Tatum has a player option in his deal.
 
I know Tatum has a player option in his deal.
Yes. One of only 2 players ever? And? Someone else's mistake doesn't change the Jazz horrible mistake here. It's inexcusable to give the PO. Here's what John Hollinger of the Athletic had to say. Donovan is a star. That does not mean he is Lebron or that the Jazz couldn't have just said "no player option". They were agreeing to a 15% trade kicker, giving the deal a year early, and 30% supermax clause for ANY all NBA team. That player option, that contract, is the worst rookie extension from a team standpoint EVER handed out under the current CBA. You CANNOT allow the PO as a team based in SLC. You basically just gave up your star a year earlier than you had to with it.



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And the league gets closer to being a farm league for the top 4-5 teams. Yay.
 
And the league gets closer to being a farm league for the top 4-5 teams. Yay.
While this is true, this is on Zanick and Lindsey. Absolutely ridiculous of them to give in on the player option when they absolutely did not have to. New Orleans is a smaller market than Utah, yet BI signs the full 5 year max like every other player ever and we get one of the two player options ever given in this situation. Zanick and Lindsey should be fired for it. Oh not to mention the 15% trade kicker Zanick and Lindsey also gave to Donovan. So trade him somewhere he doesn’t want to go, and the Jazz will also be paying him 15% more of his salary at the time. Donovan’s contract is disastrous negotiating, or as Hollinger puts it, not negotiating but capitulation.
 
Sorry I’m right? Lebron would blush at this contract.
You realize LeBron's extension after his rookie contract was only for 3 years--something a bunch of players did at the time?

This is completely normal and expected.
 
While this is true, this is on Zanick and Lindsey. Absolutely ridiculous of them to give in on the player option when they absolutely did not have to. New Orleans is a smaller market than Utah, yet BI signs the full 5 year max like every other player ever and we get one of the two player options ever given in this situation. Zanick and Lindsey should be fired for it. Oh not to mention the 15% trade kicker Zanick and Lindsey also gave to Donovan. So trade him somewhere he doesn’t want to go, and the Jazz will also be paying him 15% more of his salary at the time. Donovan’s contract is disastrous negotiating, or as Hollinger puts it, not negotiating but capitulation.
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Sounds pretty good, doesn't It?
 
You realize LeBron's extension after his rookie contract was only for 3 years--something a bunch of players did at the time?

This is completely normal and expected.
NOT UNDER THE CURRENT CBA THAT'S LITERALLY WHY THEY FIXED IT IN 2017 AND NO PLAYER OFFERED THE 5 YEAR MAX HAS DONE ANYTHING BUT SIGN THE FULL 5 YEAR MAX NO OPTIONS UNTIL TATUM AND MITCHELL. That was the exact point of the reason they re-worked it in the CBA to heavily favor teams on these extensions. So they could retain the stars they drafted for as long as possible. There is zero reason they should have given in on it.
 
It appears player options are pretty common.

Again, do you care about the context of the contracts? Because Donovan and Tatum are the first players to get a PO on their rookie extensions since 2017. It is not common at all under these circumstances when they are a RFA. The league literally fixed the CBA in 2017 to give the team the leverage and the incentive to NOT allow for player options so that smaller markets could keep their stars longer. The Jazz just threw their leverage away.
 
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