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Worldwide Genocide Continues: 13,867 DEAD from COVID-19 Shots

carey-scurry fan said:
why are such arrogant dude? You think the entire world revolves only around you and your circle. Either your just trolling or your a paid agitator agent provocateur. I refuse to believe people can be this ignorant in 2021.
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You think it's arrogant to feel healthy? Oh you poor little fella. Bless your heart.

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Red said:
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One of my huge pet peeves is anyone who says "science has to guide us" or we have to "follow the science". Science isn't a deity. You don't follow it. You don't worship it. It doesn't command you to do anything. Science is the method by which information is gained and it is the collection of knowledge that has been gained via the scientific process.

My favorite quote on this comes from the brilliant PhD theoretical physicist Sabine Hossenfelder who put it as "Science does not say you shouldn't pee on high voltage lines. Science says urine is an excellent conductor".


Anyone who say you must follow, be guided by, or submit because their authority comes from science is someone you should distrust. That is not to say they are wrong, but you need to find another reputable source.
 
carey-scurry fan said:
articles from the washington post aka the toilet paper of record, yea there is no bias or conflict of interest from media owned by jeff bozos
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Wait?!! You're making fun of sources of news?!

Let's here from you what good sources of news are, this should be entertaining. Also what country are you from? You never answered why you post pro communist sources of news...
 
Al-O-Meter said:
One of my huge pet peeves is anyone who says "science has to guide us" or we have to "follow the science". Science isn't a deity. You don't follow it. You don't worship it. It doesn't command you to do anything. Science is the method by which information is gained and it is the collection of knowledge that has been gained via the scientific process.

My favorite quote on this comes from the brilliant PhD theoretical physicist Sabine Hossenfelder who put it as "Science does not say you shouldn't pee on high voltage lines. Science says urine is an excellent conductor".


Anyone who say you must follow, be guided by, or submit because their authority comes from science is someone you should distrust. That is not to say they are wrong, but you need to find another reputable source.
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I’m not a fan of scientism. I’m also not a fan of scientific materialism. And could go on all day on that subject. (But won’t, ever, on this forum, lol). Still, I don’t think my philosophy on that subject is relevant here, I am no enemy of the scientific method as a tool, and I think the Surgeon General is offering good advice in his address yesterday, so am not letting my personal attitude toward science as a sacred cow get in the way. I don’t think the misinformation/disinformation regarding vaccines is helping at all. But if you were to prefer to trust the anti-vaccine information(not suggesting you are), that’s your business. I think what he’s saying is simply an attitude that many “men of science” would have; I mean if it’s just an appeal from authority, I still do trust his info more than the anti-vaccine crowd. And I can still retain my anti-scientism frame of mind, while accepting that speaking out against anti-vaccine disinfo is a good thing. I do realize you and I are speaking of different things here, in actuality, and getting into it would not be relevant to the subject of vaccine disinfo…..

But, briefly, and as an aside, I really have always interpreted the dictum “follow the science” as shorthand for “apply the scientific method and allow the facts to lead the way to an answer”. I really have never interpreted it to mean “worship the science”. So I guess we disagree there as well, you seem to be actually using an innocent saying that simply is shorthand for “follow the facts, follow the evidence where it leads” to a place it simply does not usually lead. “Follow the science”=“Treat Science as a deity” is not the first equation that comes to mind. On the one hand, I know what you are cautioning against, but in this instance it actually seems silly, IMHO, it likely does not even apply in the sense you suggest, and just shows that your mind works different. At least different than my mind. Nothing wrong with that, but makes it difficult to connect with you at times, and I can understand why The Thriller would give up trying…..
 
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Red said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-covid-anti-vaxxers-increase-american-deaths/

Here is perhaps the most important medical and political fact of our time: 99.5 percent of all covid-19-related deaths in the United States occur among unvaccinated people; 0.5 percent of covid deaths occur among vaccinated people. If you tell people not to be vaccinated, you add to the former category.

In this light, the recent outbreak of applause at the Conservative Political Action Conference for the United States’ failure to meet its vaccination target was macabre. Here were political activists — many of whom would call themselves “pro-life” — cheering for the advance of death.….

In the case of Fox News celebrities in particular, they must know that discouraging vaccination — by exaggerating risks, highlighting unproven alternative therapies and normalizing anti-vaccine voices — will result in additional, unnecessary deaths. This is hard to get my head around. If someone were to pay me as a columnist to argue that cigarette smoking is healthy for children, or to encourage teenagers to take naps on railroad tracks after underage drinking, I don’t think I could make an ethical case for accepting the deal.….

Fox News’s conservative anti-vaxxers gain advantages — in viewers and influence — by feeding conspiratorial fears that can kill their viewers. Standing outside politics for a moment, is this really the sum of their ambitions? Is this a reason to get out of bed in the morning? How does someone look in the mirror and say: Today, I will purposely misinform people in ways that increase their risk of hospitalization and death?….

No one has forced Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.), Ron Johnson (Wis.), or Ted Cruz (Tex.), Reps. Jim Jordan (Ohio) or Madison Cawthorn (N.C.), or many of their Republican peers to encourage vaccine skepticism, or to slander vaccine promotion as oppression, or to make selfish, destructive health decisions into a new civic rights cause. Yet they have. They are not proposing a realistic, alternative way to defeat a pandemic. They are undermining the only way to defeat a pandemic, because it will endear them to Trump stalwarts.…
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And of that 0.5%, like 90% of those are elderly. In other words, old people die. Shocker.
 
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