Would Dante benefit from a month or two in the D-League?
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Does it not matter at all how good/bad he plays this season?
FalseFlagg K
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while frustrating at the moment the answer is not really. He was drafted on what he'll be in 2-3 years at the earliest. Anyone who doesn't get that is barking up the wrong tree.
He looked much more aggressive in the games east, at miami and new orleans i think ?? I thought that might have spurred him on to play with more confidence, rather frustrated as to how he's regressed lately.
To me it doesn't matter how good/bad he plays. To me it matters in what way he plays. Right now he's not pushing himself. He's deferring and giving up the ball right after he crosses the half-court. Ingles and Hayward are the point when Dante is on the floor. He's not trying to organize the offense, he's not trying to run pick and rolls nearly as much as he should be, he's not driving. He's playing a spot-up shooter, not a PG. The only responsibility he takes right now is to shoot wide open 3s.
I was fully expecting him to struggle. I wasn't expecting him to not even try to run the offense. I would have had a lot of patience if he was trying and making mistakes and learning while doing it. I honestly have no idea what he's learning right now since he practically doesn't try anything and makes no mistakes and he has very very few TOs while trying to create offense.
FalseFlagg K
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He has one offensive foul, but I am not sure if it was called for a charge or something else.
https://www.82games.com/1415/14UTA4.HTM
His turnovers are 1 offensive foul, 11 ballhandling TOs, 27 bad passes. He has 1% of his shots blocked. He's taken 181 shots, so that would be either 1 or 2 shots blocked.
I might be wrong, but I very seriously doubt it.
Stifle Tower
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Quin to Dante: "Take two dribbles, then if you see your shadow, immediately pass the ball. And you know that thing called the paint? NEVER, EVER go into it. There are bad, vile men who do all sorts of dirty, nasty things to innocent teenagers like you."
FalseFlagg K
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and he's been saying to trey burke for a lot of the season "overdribble like your life depends on it, completely ignore your 4 guys and jack up ridiculous shot after ridiculous shot, drive into the paint and then run back out with it again. And for crying out loud, don't make any attempt to stay in front of your man on d"
I get your point dude and agree on his lack of assertion but i think you're being a little hysterical about it all. I'd be disappointed in the coaching if the players aren't being instructed on specifics of what he wants them to be doing. It's one thing to hear Quin say he wants aggression but without knowing details of what he's asking him to do all the bitching is a little over the top. A year or two and i think he'll be quite different.
homeytennis
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How about sending him to Iowa and let him learn a little from ex Jazz man Diante Garrett. I would say send him to Idaho but they are about talentless. Garrett wasn't a world beater last year for us but he has some veteran savy and could convey some things to the youngster to get his confidence back.
Strutter
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If I remember correctly, those games came at the very end of the season.
But I agree--I'm not worried about Dante yet. We need more time.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
IIRC, Hayward was the top 3PT shooter in the league after the all-star break. So it wasn't just a few games.
Thorpe has Exum ranked 18th among all rookies:
https://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12169720/rookie-rankings-halfway-point
That is five spots below some guy named "Joe Ingles".
https://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12169720/rookie-rankings-halfway-point
That is five spots below some guy named "Joe Ingles".
Here's what Quin said today about Dante:
"I think realistically it's going to take a little bit of time. The potential... it's a good thing and it's a hard thing. The potential is high for Dante but because of that there could be expectations in the short run, because you can look ahead and extrapolate and say "This guy has a chance to be real good". So I think for one thing, he just has to stay in the present, as we all do. I'd just like to see him let it loose more, you know... just attack and be aggressive and ... he's such a conscientious kid that he's often trying to make the right play or make a play for a teammate. I like when he's really aggressive offensively and I can live with some of those mistakes cause I think with his ability over time that he will get more and more efficient. The other thing that he can do today that is important is that he can defend the ball. And with his length he should be able to really bother people. And he's unique in that sense cause in the west he's one of the bigger guards and if he can embrace that right now, I think that's the part of the game where he can be effective and make an impact and it's a little bit easier to hang on to right now than some of parts of the game offensively that require a little bit more precision, patience, experience."
https://1280thezone.com/index.php/story/read/the_big_show_utah_jazz_head_coach_quin_snyder5
"I think realistically it's going to take a little bit of time. The potential... it's a good thing and it's a hard thing. The potential is high for Dante but because of that there could be expectations in the short run, because you can look ahead and extrapolate and say "This guy has a chance to be real good". So I think for one thing, he just has to stay in the present, as we all do. I'd just like to see him let it loose more, you know... just attack and be aggressive and ... he's such a conscientious kid that he's often trying to make the right play or make a play for a teammate. I like when he's really aggressive offensively and I can live with some of those mistakes cause I think with his ability over time that he will get more and more efficient. The other thing that he can do today that is important is that he can defend the ball. And with his length he should be able to really bother people. And he's unique in that sense cause in the west he's one of the bigger guards and if he can embrace that right now, I think that's the part of the game where he can be effective and make an impact and it's a little bit easier to hang on to right now than some of parts of the game offensively that require a little bit more precision, patience, experience."
https://1280thezone.com/index.php/story/read/the_big_show_utah_jazz_head_coach_quin_snyder5