Would you trade ...

[Thee Jazz Fan]

He has a worse injury history then both Favors and Hood. I'd rather trade Favors for a lesser stretch 4 and hold onto Hood as well. I think we could get someone like Nikola Mirotic for less while keeping extra talent and depth

 

[Archie Moses]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6vntuvh

 

[infection]

This is a much better deal for the Jazz than most of what has been thrown around lately. Favors and Joe Jesus get a shot at a ring before they hit free agency and Osman/Crowder give the Jazz some decent assets to build with. Dumping Favors for a late first doesn’t make sense to me, but Crowder is on one of the best contracts in the league and would seem to be a decent fit with the Jazz. I still don’t love the idea of trading Faves, but I could easily support this type of deal.

This. Not interested in trading Favors for a pick.

 

[LoPo]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6vntuvh

I'm not sure why Charlotte would do that trade.

 

[b_line]

im not sold on jabari parker being a defensive stopper. Also he's going to be coming off 2 injured knees.(same knee?)

do you really gamble with that?

Lol, is anyone sold on jabari being a defensive stopper?

 

[Jack Strop]

I think the Jazz are going to throw a max offer sheet at either Jabari or Aaron Gordon and see what happens. We'll see though.

It's pretty difficult for the Jazz to open up a max slot, which they have to do before a player signs an offer, without decimating the bench and renouncing rights to players they may want to keep. It's a pretty risky gamble, too. I think Orlando matches (if Gordon would even agree to sign an offer sheet with Utah). Milwaukee probably does, too.

 

[Jack Strop]

We could actually send them JJ and Favors (like $24M) and take back only Crowder and Frye if they used their ~$6M Kyrie trade exception. That’d be a hell of a tax bill for them, though.

Would be nice because then we’d have a ~$10M trade exception.

ETA: **** Hayward, ***** Ainge and **** Bartelstein for not giving us a trade exception.

Don't think that can be done. IINM, exceptions can't be combined with other trade components, unless one (or more) of the salaries fits within the exception. So, for instance, Cavs could use the Kyrie exception on someone like Thabo or Jerebko.

A simple Favors for Crowder and Frye works. And gives Cleveland some tax relief.
The prized for Utah is obviously Crowder. Cleveland gets a push for the playoffs and salaries off the books for next season. The trade could expand if Cleveland wants another offensive threat (which they've been rumored as seeking).

Cavs acquire Favors, Burks, 2018 2nd round pick or lottery-protected 2019 1st round pick
Jazz acquire Crowder, Osman and Shumpert

Actually, I think the Cavs really like Osman. Maybe the trade has to be Favors and Hood for Osman, Crowder and Frye.

I like that trade for both teams. If Lebron leaves, Cavs can match for Hood, re-sign Favors and have the BKN pick to rebuild. Utah may not want to pay Hood a lot, especially with Mitchell now the starter. They need options at SF. Osman could even start, with Ingles a backup at either wing.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Don't think that can be done. IINM, exceptions can't be combined with other trade components, unless one (or more) of the salaries fits within the exception. So, for instance, Cavs could use the Kyrie exception on someone like Thabo or Jerebko.

A simple Favors for Crowder and Frye works. And gives Cleveland some tax relief.
The prized for Utah is obviously Crowder. Cleveland gets a push for the playoffs and salaries off the books for next season. The trade could expand if Cleveland wants another offensive threat (which they've been rumored as seeking).

Cavs acquire Favors, Burks, 2018 2nd round pick or lottery-protected 2019 1st round pick
Jazz acquire Crowder, Osman and Shumpert

Or Cavs get Favors and Thabo, 2nd round pick
Jazz get Crowder, Shumpert and Osman

I think Cleveland would be more interested in Thabo than Favors... basically I think they are building with one team in mind. I think they'd do something around Thabo for Shump and their first (not BKN)... salary would have to work obvi.

I keep hearing on the Jazz board that they would want Favors, but I don't think so at all.

I don't think they trade Crowder unless LeBron leaves next year.

 

[LoPo]

A simple Favors for Crowder and Frye works. And gives Cleveland some tax relief.
The prized for Utah is obviously Crowder. Cleveland gets a push for the playoffs and salaries off the books for next season. The trade could expand if Cleveland wants another offensive threat (which they've been rumored as seeking).

Cavs acquire Favors, Burks, 2018 2nd round pick or lottery-protected 2019 1st round pick
Jazz acquire Crowder, Osman and Shumpert

Or Cavs get Favors and Thabo, 2nd round pick
Jazz get Crowder, Shumpert and Osman

Almost every team in the league, in the Cavs' financial hell, would do Favors for Frye and Crowder. They would consider it because tax ramifications this year and next. However, would LeBron be upset if you traded Crowder and Frye for just Favors? I don't think that is a very strong trade in his opinion. Cleveland can't make salary dump trades in LBJ's contract year.

I don't think the Cavs are interested in the second or third trades either. I think LeBron is smart enough to know that he is going to need as many Shumpert type players as possible in the playoffs to battle guys like Kyrie, Curry, Harden, Oladipo, etc.

The Cavs could part with Frye and Calderon with no hesitation. I also think Osman is expendable because he lacks the experience necessary to see the floor in the playoffs. So that leaves Crowder as the only question mark in terms of a trade. Does LBJ think he is necessary? Does IT really like Crowder and wants to keep him on the roster?

After saying all that, I think the most realistic trade is:

Favors for Frye, Calderon, Osman and the Cavs 2018 1st rounder

If necessary, Jazz could also trade Thabo to Cleveland for a future lottery protected 1st rounder. The Cavs have a trade exception big enough and you know they would love to have a guy like Thabo defensively.

I would love to get Crowder, but LeBron would really, really want JoeJ over Crowder for that to happen...

 

[Jack Strop]

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Well, they've been rumored to be interested in Gasol and DeAndre, but the asking price has been too high. Favors is definitely obtainable for the Cavs and would be reasaonably priced. And the selling point is that Favors would be a decent fit. The real problem in Utah is that both 5's are inside players. Cleveland doesn't have the problem; even if Favs plays with Love, Love can move out to the 3Pt line. And there aren't very many better backup 5's than Favors.

Shumpert and Frye are throw-away players at this point. Utah is not going to take back Shumpert's salary without getting a very good asset for doing so (Osman would be worth it, IMO). Otherwise, it prevents them from doing other moves in free agency.

If Cleveland wanted Thabo and Burks, that's doable. Cleveland gets depth/spot starters at the 2-4. Utah gets a player who needs a reset (Crowder), a prospect (Osman) and takes on a salary dump (Shumpert). Crowder and Osman would be better value than any players they could acquire in free agency.

 

[Jack Strop]

Favors for Frye, Calderon, Osman and the Cavs 2018 1st rounder

If necessary, Jazz could also trade Thabo to Cleveland for a future lottery protected 1st rounder. The Cavs have a trade exception big enough and you know they would love to have a guy like Thabo defensively.

I would love to get Crowder, but LeBron would really, really want JoeJ over Crowder for that to happen...

Calderon is the only PG keeping things together for Cleveland. Shumpert had knee surgery and is out for 6-8 weeks. How effective will he be even when he returns?

I think Cleveland may wait to see if IT can return before making any trades. If Thomas is only a shell of himself, maybe they make a move for a PG. You know who might be a great fit in Cleveland passing to scorers? Rubio.

 

[franklin]

The answer is the Bucks wouldn't do it. They would require picks and/or players younger than anything the Jazz are getting them in the deal you posited.

It was cool seeing Jabari show he could be a poor man's Carmelo last season. A very poor man's.