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Wow. Cougar fans aren't going to like this......

Now that Utah is in teh 12-PAC BYU is in no position to dictate terms. If Utah has an opening in SLC that BYU could fill then they should feel honored to get a game against a team in a real conference.

Like I said, Utah fans will be too snobby.
 
Now that Utah is in teh 12-PAC BYU is in no position to dictate terms. If Utah has an opening in SLC that BYU could fill then they should feel honored to get a game against a team in a real conference.

Uhh BYU schedules Pac-10 teams every year. They do home and home against them.
 
Haha, Utah fans are so lame. "they [BYU] should feel honored to get a game against a team in a real conference."

I just told Mrs. Trout that quote and I thought she was going to die laughing. I asked her, "Do you think they're just trying to get my goat, or are they serious...?" She was like, "Oh, they're serious." and went on to tell me about some fart box she knows who wrote up a full blog page on what a great day in history it was when the Utes got into a "Real Conference".

There aren't enough adjectives in the English language to describe how ludicrous the Utah fan base is.
 
FYI, I'm not really all that into college sports. Thought I might get a few bites, though.
 
Just like the Florida - Florida St, Iowa - Iowa St, USC - Notre dame rivalries? I can keep going too.

All the rivalries you just named are between teams who are BOTH in BCS conferences (ND included because they have an automatic bid if they finish with high rank). Thus, neither team is stooping down a level to keep the rivalry alive.

After next year, you wont be able to say that Utah and BYU. It was sad when the "Holy War" was replaced by the "Deseret Duel"... but that will be nothing compared to seeing BYU having to start a new "Deseret Duel" with Utah State :p
 
If Utah were really not scared about playing BYU and that much better of a team, they would agree to play an extra road game that year and play at the Y. They could (and would) make up the revenue by scheduling an extra home game the next year, just keep Weber State, (the Big Sky powerhouse) on your schedule. That should do it.
 
Wait isn't that the same Utah St. that the Y thought they're too good to play every year and also was making them go to Provo 2x for every 1x game up in Ogden?

*I honestly don't remember how it got resolved or even if it did I just remember Utah St. being upset about it. That and I do like goading trout, calm down trout that is GOADING not GOATING pull your pants back up *
 
Haha, Utah fans are so lame. "they [BYU] should feel honored to get a game against a team in a real conference."

I just told Mrs. Trout that quote and I thought she was going to die laughing. I asked her, "Do you think they're just trying to get my goat, or are they serious...?" She was like, "Oh, they're serious." and went on to tell me about some fart box she knows who wrote up a full blog page on what a great day in history it was when the Utes got into a "Real Conference".

There aren't enough adjectives in the English language to describe how ludicrous the Utah fan base is.

Now you get an idea of how Utah fans feel about Zoobie's and their over bloated sense of worth for the last 40 years. Funny thing is it has been almost 30 years since BYU has done anything worth being that proud about so they continue to worship their fake title even when they are too young to have cared when it actually happened.
 
If Utah were really not scared about playing BYU and that much better of a team, they would agree to play an extra road game that year and play at the Y. They could (and would) make up the revenue by scheduling an extra home game the next year, just keep Weber State, (the Big Sky powerhouse) on your schedule. That should do it.

Wait didn't you just play northern Iowa or some such school like that? At least Weber is from around here. And has a head coach that was at the U. What was BYU's excuse for Northern Illinois or whomever? Needed a guaranteed win and were afraid McBride would beat you? Again.
 
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Haha, Utah fans are so lame. "they [BYU] should feel honored to get a game against a team in a real conference."

I just told Mrs. Trout that quote and I thought she was going to die laughing. I asked her, "Do you think they're just trying to get my goat, or are they serious...?" She was like, "Oh, they're serious." and went on to tell me about some fart box she knows who wrote up a full blog page on what a great day in history it was when the Utes got into a "Real Conference".

There aren't enough adjectives in the English language to describe how ludicrous the Utah fan base is.

Ummm, I think he posted that just to get the ire up from some BYU fans and you were the first to jump all over it. Congrats.

You can say how "ludicrous" the Utah fan base is but that's a broad based assumption that simply is not true. I don't think Utah should ever feel above scheduling BYU, even if the Cougs spend the rest of time in the MWC (I happen to think they're Big 12 bound before too long anyway).

Is the move to the new Pac 12 going to elevate Utah's program over BYU's? I think intelligent fans on both sides would have to agree that will be the case. BYU will be pulling in around $1.5 million per year until 2016 with the current MWC TV deal. Reports came out yesterday that the new Pac 12 TV deal will pay each team around $14.5 million per season. Not to mention that Utah will be sharing in BCS money every single season. Utah is simply going to have more resources than BYU and it will be ten-fold. Again, that's assuming BYU doens't make the jump to the Big 12.

However, even in the MWC, BYU is unique enough to survive and keep their program fairly close to Utah's. Not only that, I believe during the rivalry games (which will survive and thrive), the two schools will be close enough in talent that it will still be a hotly contested rivalry with plenty of close games.

Utah will win some recruiting wars that they simply haven't won in the past. I saw Harvy Unga used as an example in here the other day, and I completely agree. That's the exact type of player that BYU is going to find harder and harder to hold on to. Not saying they won't win that battle every once and a while, but the Utes are certainly in a better position at this point.

For the most part, I think the move to the Pac 10 has brought out the extremists on boths sides. Fact is, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. If BYU was going to the Pac 10 instead of Utah, I would have the same expectations for the Cougs as I do the Utes because both programs are much closer than any of the fans would like to admit. I could see BYU stepping into the Pac 10 and doing well right away. I would expect them to compete in the top 4 or 5 in the conference most, if not every year and every 3 to 4 years I would expect them to make a serious run at the conference title which obviously means a potential trip to the Rose Bowl.

I have the exact same expectations for Utah. I certainly don't expect them to become Pete Carroll's Trojans. It seems like Cougar fans like implying that's what most of us Utah fans are expecting, when in fact I'd say about 90% have very reasonable expectations.

And to the guy who said Utah shouldn't be afraid to play in Provo next year even if it means Utah playing an extra road game, that's insane. Utah is not going to play 7 road games and 5 home games just to accomodate BYU, or any other school for that matter. Plus, Utah is not attempting to "duck" BYU. Obviously, when Utah made the 2011 schedule, they didnt' assume they'd be in the Pac 10. They won't be getting out of the Boise or Pitt games, so we all just have to face reality on that. I'm sure Utah will make every effort to schedule a non-conference game with BYU in SLC. I honestly think it's in BYU's hand whether the game is played or not. However, I expect that BYU would sign on to play they game. They'd have a lot to gain by playing that game, and not much to lose if you ask me.
 
Wait isn't that the same Utah St. that the Y thought they're too good to play every year and also was making them go to Provo 2x for every 1x game up in Ogden?

The difference is that we consistently thump you guys(Utah). Utah State hasn't beat BYU since 1993. Rivalries don't exist between teams when one team just gets thumped every time. I don't think BYU is too good for Utah State, but they don't mean anything to BYU fans. I think it's a waste to schedule Utah State as one of 12 games, but BYU seems to have changed their position. The basketball games are fun though.
 
I just want everyone to start getting it right and call it the 12-PAC. Maybe a 12-PAC of Utah Highlife.
 
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