Wow. Cougar fans aren't going to like this......

[Archie Moses]

Like I said, Utah fans will be too snobby.

Saying Utah will not play BYU because they'll be snobby is ridiculous. Just cause they will be in different conferences and one being in a BCS and the other not, does not mean they will not play each other. There will still be a ton of money and publicity from each game they play. It will help both Provo and Salt Lake City. There are no cons about it other than one team losing. The rivalry will continue to live on.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

For the record, I'm really rooting for BYU to get into the Big 12. That would make Utah the hotbed for College football IMO. Seriously, who would have it better than us? I can't think of two other power conferences that would share such a proximity to each other. Utah in the Pac 12 and BYU in the Big 12 is nothing but a win/win for each and every football fan in this state. However, Chip Brown just threw out this tweet and it doesn't seem so promising. Hope he's wrong:

Chip Brown, the former Texas beat writer who broke most of the news the last few weeks regarding conference realignment and expansion -- especially regarding Big 12 schools eventually staying put instead of going to the Pac-10 -- just threw out a tweet that surely won’t be seen as a positive by BYU fans.
“Lot of speculation about BYU talking to the B12, but sources tell www.Orangebloods.com it's not happening,” Brown tweeted.

And in another note, Utah just got a RB from Texas to committ. I guess he was choosing between Utah, Arizona St. and Oregon St. Did the Pac 10 invite sway him towards Utah? Hard to say, but Utah did just beat out two other Pac 10 schools to get him.

 

[SaltyDawg]

And in another note, Utah just got a RB from Texas to committ. I guess he was choosing between Utah, Arizona St. and Oregon St. Did the Pac 10 invite sway him towards Utah? Hard to say, but Utah did just beat out two other Pac 10 schools to get him.

Michigan is also on that list of teams he was considering. You can bet your bottom dollar Utah being in the PAC next year was at least a factor that he considered.

 

[CONAN]

https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php/391-What-Utah-going-to-the-Pac-does-to-rivalries


Welcome to the board, newb.

 

[Scorpjazz]

I hope BYU does go to the Big12. A better conference all around, IMO.
But, regardless, if the Cougars stay in the MWC they will get a shot at Utah every other year or so at least anyway. 4th or 5th place team in the Pac10/12 goes to Vegas Bowl to play the MWC champion. That will be Utah and BYU most years. I know I have said this many times, but it well worth saying again since it pisses off unrealistic Ute fans who seriously think they will compete for championships in their "real" conference.
Also could be said realistically that the Top 3 teams in the MWC will be as good or better than the top 3 in the PACsomething just as they were the last few years. The Boise St for Utah trade isnt a drop off Football wise for the MWC.

 

[NAOS]

I hate Marcus and Raspberry Delight.

(now give me some rep points for being so frank).

I hate you. You are the reason that this rivalry will never end because I choose to root against BYU just so I can quickly get under the skin of obnoxious asses like you. die.

When I heard the news of Utah joining the PAC the first image to pop into my head was an enormous hand flipping the bird, rising up from SLC, visible to the lowly utah-county folk. This is the biggest victory in the 100+ years of the rivalry and it is fun as hell to rub your faces in it.

 

[Scat]

I hate Marcus and Raspberry Delight.

(now give me some rep points for being so frank).

I hate you. You are the reason that this rivalry will never end because I choose to root against BYU just so I can quickly get under the skin of obnoxious asses like you. die.

When I heard the news of Utah joining the PAC the first image to pop into my head was an enormous hand flipping the bird, rising up from SLC, visible to the lowly utah-county folk. This is the biggest victory in the 100+ years of the rivalry and it is fun as hell to rub your faces in it.

LOL I'm not even a BYU fan. If you look back at my posts I say nasty things about BYU fans as well. I'm trying to figure out what is obnoxious about anything I wrote. Certainly nothing as obxoxious as your post quoted above.

 

[TroutBum]

I hate Marcus and Raspberry Delight.

(now give me some rep points for being so frank).

I hate you. You are the reason that this rivalry will never end because I choose to root against BYU just so I can quickly get under the skin of obnoxious asses like you. die.

When I heard the news of Utah joining the PAC the first image to pop into my head was an enormous hand flipping the bird, rising up from SLC, visible to the lowly utah-county folk. This is the biggest victory in the 100+ years of the rivalry and it is fun as hell to rub your faces in it.

I am down with the frankness and anger. This is my kind of fan. I'm willing to bet that NAOS has the balls to bet on the BYU/Utah game and give me points, because he's clearly a real fan.

So, what say you, NAOS, wanna lose some money?

 

[inoshishi]

The difference is that we consistently thump you guys(Utah).

BYU has in fact won 3 of the last 4 games against Utah.

However...

Utah has won 5 of the past 8 and 10 of the past 17 games against BYU.

Maybe your definition of "consistently thump" is different than mine. The last time BYU beat Utah by more than a touchdown was 1996. The last time Utah thumped BYU? 2008.

As far as MWC championships go, Utah has won three and tied for another. BYU has won three and tied for another.

You have to go back almost 20 years to find a time when BYU consistently was better than Utah in football.

 

[G-O-A-T]

I hope BYU does go to the Big12. A better conference all around, IMO. But, regardless, if the Cougars stay in the MWC they will get a shot at Utah every other year or so at least anyway. 4th or 5th place team in the Pac10/12 goes to Vegas Bowl to play the MWC champion. That will be Utah and BYU most years.

Hmm... this is assuming that BYU beats out Boise St. AND TCU most years and gets to play in the Vegas Bowl. Of course, even if BYU comes in second, that still leaves them with an opportunity to play in the Poinsetta bowl against the Pac 10 #6... which could be Utah in a (very) down year.

And though it's fun to poke fun at BYU for not getting invited to the "adults table", I think it would also be fun to see them get invited to the Big 12 just to see Boise's reaction as they realized they left the WAC for WAC v.2.0

 

[NAOS]

I am down with the frankness and anger. This is my kind of fan. I'm willing to bet that NAOS has the balls to bet on the BYU/Utah game and give me points, because he's clearly a real fan.

So, what say you, NAOS, wanna lose some money?

Money is boring.
If I win, then you have to video yourself and your wife taking big hits off of a beer bong... 2 each, in alternating order. Then you have to post it on youtube and then post a link on this board.

If you win, I'll shave my face, buy a short-sleeved, wrinkle-free, button-down collared shirt and a boring-*** tie, put that together with a suit that fits me like ****, and go to a Mormon church service. I'll also post a video.

 

[Bronco70]

4th or 5th place team in the Pac10/12 goes to Vegas Bowl to play the MWC champion. That will be Utah and BYU most years. I know I have said this many times, but it well worth saying again since it pisses off unrealistic Ute fans who seriously think they will compete for championships in their "real" conference.

I keep hearing how Utah will be 4th or 5th place in the PAC 10, but nobody seems to want to actually expand on it. So who are the other 3-4 teams that Utah has no chance against?

The fact of the matter is, Utah is good enough to compete with anyone in the PAC 10, right now. How the landscape will look come 2011... who knows? But the argument that Utah is no better than 4th in that league (at the moment) is just sour grapes.

Look, I've said this before - if BYU or TCU were in Utah's position, I would feel the same way about them. Any of them has a pretty good chance in that league. Utah just happens to be the one. So if you don't agree, that's fine. But I would be interested to hear why.