Wow. Cougar fans aren't going to like this......

[Shaggy]

BYU-UTAH could play the 2011 game in the Rose Bowl? Jerryland? Laramie? Logan?

 

[default]

Dang, I was hoping this was a thread about hot older women.

 

[TroutBum]

Jazzman12 is about the most solid Utah poster I've ever come across. That isn't saying much, but there you go.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Jazzman12 is about the most solid Utah poster I've ever come across. That isn't saying much, but there you go.

Awww shucks.

 

[gregbroncs]

Good post, but I do want to point out that nobdy in this thread has brought up 1984. I have mentioned it once after some moron brought up the BCS games as if a third place finish is grounds for bragging. I don't get how you can accuse us of living in the past, and yet bring up your BSC games from a few years ago -- isn't that pretty much the same thing? Let's be relevant if we're going to be relevant: Utah lost to BYU last year, so we're 1 up.

Stop living in the past last years game is ancient history. LOL

How far do you want to take it. I'll give you 84 Utah is still up on BYU because they have 2 undefeated season's and accomplished the highest merit allowed in the current climate of football. Not to mention the 84 season happened without BYU beating a single good opponent.

 

[CONAN]

Very good points. Also keep in mind the Pac-Whatever looks for "research institutes." While BYU places very high in terms of their Accounting and pre-Law programs (and probably a few more), their overall academics are not up to the standards required by the Pac-10.

Don't fool yourself people. It's never been about that and it never will be. Heck, there are Pac-10 teams now that don't qualify as a research institute.

 

[CONAN]

they have 2 undefeated season's and accomplished the highest merit allowed in the current climate of football.

Agreed. Isn't this statement word for word on a trophy somewhere on Utah campus? If it isn't it should be.

 

[gregbroncs]

Don't fool yourself people. It's never been about that and it never will be. Heck, there are Pac-10 teams now that don't qualify as a research institute.

Really which ones exactly? This was an issue whether you want to admit it or not.

 

[CONAN]

Really which ones exactly? This was an issue whether you want to admit it or not.

ASU, OSU, and WSU. Do some research, Son.

Sunday play, too conservative for the PAC-10, Prop 8? OK, I'll buy that as a reason and those are huge factors whether you want to admit it or not. But not a research university? Riiiight.

 

[gregbroncs]

ASU, OSU, and WSU. Do some research, Son.

Sunday play, too conservative for the PAC-10, Prop 8? OK, I'll buy that as a reason and those are huge factors whether you want to admit it or not. But not a research university? Riiiight.

Wow you can name 3 schools in the pac 10. Where is your backup to these examples? You made a statement, back it up.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Conan's right. Sunday play, too conservative and Prop 8 were all major reasons BYU wasn't considered.

However, he forgot to add BYU's inability to carry a BCS run past week 4 as another major flaw in their resume.

 

[CONAN]

Keep in mind BYU's tuition discrimination also plays a huge part.