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WOW hornets......3yrs 27million Lance Stephenson! wowowoowowoww so mad right now.

I'm fed up with this story....you don't win championships only with good personality players! The head coach is not paid to manage only players with good attitude, if a coach has personality he can manage difficult players too!

Charlotte made a huge deal and the Jazz screwed up with a ridiculous contract!

Are you openly saying that Charlotte never had any intention to sign Gordon and had this master plan to screw us over all while a LS deal waited in the wings?!? I think they got a great deal for Stevenson, but come on dude this has nothing to do with Gordon Hayward.
 
I'm fed up with this story....you don't win championships only with good personality players! The head coach is not paid to manage only players with good attitude, if a coach has personality he can manage difficult players too!

Charlotte made a huge deal and the Jazz screwed up with a ridiculous contract!

Again, reminding everybody that Charlotte would rather have had Hayward at 16 million. That point isn't debatable, because that is the shiny thing they went to first. Just interested to see how Stephenson is going to coexist with Alfense. Competitive is good. Starting fist fights in the locker room during a playoff run isn't really something I want to introduce into my young team that I am teaching to share the ball. Don't think I want to cheer for a team where Lance thinks he is "the man."
 
Are you openly saying that Charlotte never had any intention to sign Gordon and had this master plan to screw us over all while a LS deal waited in the wings?!? I think they got a great deal for Stevenson, but come on dude this has nothing to do with Gordon Hayward.

I could see a team in the West doing that to the Jazz on purpose, but what does Charlotte have to gain by screwing us over? It would be a huge risk if they actually had 0 desire to have Hayward on that kind of contract on the team.
 
I could see a team in the West doing that to the Jazz on purpose, but what does Charlotte have to gain by screwing us over? It would be a huge risk if they actually had 0 desire to have Hayward on that kind of contract on the team.

It would be a huge risk for any team and I agree it just doesn't make sense especially for an eastern conference team. Charlotte rolled the red carpet out for Gordon and had every intention to sign him.
 
Here's the difference the Spurs can afford to bring in the type of guys they like. You guys don't have that luxury. Even still the Spurs tired their hands with a guy like Steven Jackson when they weren't a title contending team for a few seasons.

Teams should never handicap themselves by looking for model citizens.

They won a title with SJax.
 
1st post! This is gonna be fun hehehe

‘Stockton said he would only play for the Jazz and then would meet with the owner and sign a deal. He made a demand in the summer of 1996 when tens of millions of dollars were flying around for free agent guards. He’d sign a $5 million per season deal, less than half of what other free agent guards were making, but he wanted to guarantee ice time in the Delta Center for his seven-year-old son’s hockey team.’

They just don’t make them like this anymore. Money helps yes, but it doesn’t guarantee happiness. Every year that passes money seems to take more over other values in the NBA. It’s turning into a GM vs. Agents more than anything, more business-like. The Spurs might be the last stance of what could be considered a team with a personality of it’s own due to players sticking around for years. Players taking pay cuts for the sake of their Spurs.

And hey, Hayward is in his right to try and make the most money he can, all I’m saying is that I see him with different eyes than I see Favors for example, always making it clear that he wants to stay. IMO, it’s not just about a player’s talents basketball wise but also about how he fits with the team in terms of team culture, chemistry and how bad you want to stay in a certain place or not. Hayward hasn’t shown me but a will to make as much money as he can and none of the other… That’s my issue with Gordon Hayward.
 
I am betting Stephenson is wishing he would have said yes to Indy but who knows. Bottom line, he got what the league thinks he is worth - so evidently the whole league has a boy scout issue. The fact that it took him this long to find a home says it all. The real Hayward comparison is Parsons.
 
1st post! This is gonna be fun hehehe

‘Stockton said he would only play for the Jazz and then would meet with the owner and sign a deal. He made a demand in the summer of 1996 when tens of millions of dollars were flying around for free agent guards. He’d sign a $5 million per season deal, less than half of what other free agent guards were making, but he wanted to guarantee ice time in the Delta Center for his seven-year-old son’s hockey team.’

They just don’t make them like this anymore. Money helps yes, but it doesn’t guarantee happiness. Every year that passes money seems to take more over other values in the NBA. It’s turning into a GM vs. Agents more than anything, more business-like. The Spurs might be the last stance of what could be considered a team with a personality of it’s own due to players sticking around for years. Players taking pay cuts for the sake of their Spurs.

And hey, Hayward is in his right to try and make the most money he can, all I’m saying is that I see him with different eyes than I see Favors for example, always making it clear that he wants to stay. IMO, it’s not just about a player’s talents basketball wise but also about how he fits with the team in terms of team culture, chemistry and how bad you want to stay in a certain place or not. Hayward hasn’t shown me but a will to make as much money as he can and none of the other… That’s my issue with Gordon Hayward.


Funny how we want these guys to be super start athletes, competitive right up to the point of earning a contract. Then they better put their competitive nature on hold and sacrifice millions to stay in Utah and play for our team.

How many of you, honestly, would turn down millions of dollars because it would give your fans a warm fuzzy feeling? Next time he hits a three, we'll all cheer. Then when he clanks it we'll all boo. You telling me we would ignore his faults if he signed for $9M? No, we'd all be here going "can't believe he can't do this or that, for $9M a year he should be willing to learn".

Stockton was one in a million. You just can't compare others to him on any level. We were blessed to have had him here, and hopefully everyone enjoys and relishes those memories.
 
The key is not to have a whole team of knuckleheads. Good orgs can usually absorb a couple. We've had Kirk Snyder, Robert Whaley, and others that were worse people with far less upside. You could get rid of Lance in a New York minute at 27 mill over 3.

May be DL doesn't want to pollute Exum so early on with ANY Lance.
 
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