Yesterday - Bundy Ranch

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You do realize the reason the libertarian utopia is not popular is not because of this message, but because libertarianism fails in practice? (we tried it in the 1800's)

Also, I how does outlawing unions lines up with libertarian philosophy. Your brand seeks a society with no checks on capital. Am I missing something?

We didn't try it in the eighteen hundreds it was already in place. The south wanted to keep it this way while the north was busy doing the same things England did to the colonies in the 1700s. Politicians started pork barrel policies and placing heavy tariffs on southern needs to serve their election and re-election interests. The south seceded, which was their constitutional right, and the north won and ended any hopes of a libertarian utopia.

Labor is a commodity just like any other item at the grocery store. Unions distort the labor market just like a price floor distorts the bread market

 

[Hantlers]

I will address this when time permits, but I will say, for now, that I have some timeline issues... but much more importantly you, like many others are grossly missing the point due, mostly, to taking at face value what the media is feeding.

You keep on saying that everybody is missing the point, but then you never state what the point is.

C'mon…be specific. What is the point?

 

[franklin]

You keep on saying that everybody is missing the point, but then you never state what the point is.

C'mon…be specific. What is the point?

That none of us have any morals we're willing to stand up for.

 

[Dr. Jones]

So, to ratchet it up a little, nay, lot, you side with the Taliban. They have a very well understood set of ideals that many would claim aren't right. They're crazy doers and things sure do go down where they're at.

You must have a tiny brain and tinier penis, tbh.

 

[Dr. Jones]

You keep on saying that everybody is missing the point, but then you never state what the point is.

C'mon…be specific. What is the point?

That none of us have any morals we're willing to stand up for.

You guys must be trolling.. forreal. Please tell me that after 15 pages you still can't know...

 

[Hantlers]

You guys must be trolling.. forreal. Please tell me that after 15 pages you still can't know...

All I'm asking for you is to state the point that you think everybody is missing.

If you've already stated it, and I missed it, then show me.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I have mixed feelings about it all. I don't want the Bundy's to be given an inch IF they don't deserve it. I didn't like the way the feds started this thing out, I loved the support the 'little man' got, but as I've said earlier, I want the correct and reaponsible outcome.

I don't want Americans to believe they can assemble with guns and whomever has the most firepower wins.. that's certainly not a sustainable or responsible enterprise (duh). I also don't want elected officials to feel they have power over the people.. rather than to serve the people.

That's the outcome I wanted for this. To have the feds acknowledge they handled it wrong up front and do an internal investigation and provide findings to the people as to what they were thinking/intending. To seek a way to allow both sides to win.. and if such a way isn't reasonably found, to take the land from Bundy (swiftly) with a detailed plan in place as to what is to be done with it. If nothing, fine.. but if there is an intended purpose, be transparent about it.

I mainly hope we learn something, grow from it, and be better for it.

Bumped for retardhantlers.

You guys want to complicate the issue and keep baiting me with your trolling antics... gosh.

Forreal tho..

 

[Dr. Jones]

Btw.. I SRSLY invite anyone that wants to go to the Bundy ranch this friday. Will be life-changing/ending.

I'm taking 50 pizzas and heading back down to hang out. And I am completely srs when I say you will be forever changed.

 

[Hantlers]

Bumped for retardhantlers.

You guys want to complicate the issue and keep baiting me with your trolling antics... gosh.

Forreal tho..

Isn't that what tons of people have been saying though? I don't think that point has been missed.

I feel like you're just saying that the feds screwed up, and the militia hasn't exactly helped any, but that they just need to settle this and be done? That they need to quit wasting our time?

I also think it's odd that we (or some people here) want to prop up the "little guy". The same "little guy" who broke the law for 20 years. The same "little guy", that when he got his assets taken away because he didn't pay the fees, had a militia come on down that was ready and willing to try to keep the government from legally taking those assets. I'm all about people having the right and freedom to do as they wish (for the most part), but I also think we have to follow the law.

I think both sides are stupid, the feds and the Bundy's. If the feds had handled this right from the get-go, maybe we wouldn't have this problem. However if the Bundy's had paid their fees, we definitely wouldn't be having this problem. This isn't exactly a difficult case/decision, so I don't understand why anything is still going on over there, or why we're still discussing it.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Isn't that what tons of people have been saying though? I don't think that point has been missed.

I feel like you're just saying that the feds screwed up, and the militia hasn't exactly helped any, but that they just need to settle this and be done? That they need to quit wasting our time?

I also think it's odd that we (or some people here) want to prop up the "little guy". The same "little guy" who broke the law for 20 years. The same "little guy", that when he got his assets taken away because he didn't pay the fees, had a militia come on down that was ready and willing to try to keep the government from legally taking those assets. I'm all about people having the right and freedom to do as they wish (for the most part), but I also think we have to follow the law.

I think both sides are stupid, the feds and the Bundy's. If the feds had handled this right from the get-go, maybe we wouldn't have this problem. However if the Bundy's had paid their fees, we definitely wouldn't be having this problem. This isn't exactly a difficult case/decision, so I don't understand why anything is still going on over there, or why we're still discussing it.

Money.

But yeah... that's what I'm saying. All the above. Only thing I'd add is that maybe bundy deserves one more audience to hear his pitch... and then be done with it all. I don't care so much the outcome, but that the 'trial' is FAIR.

 

[fallenchicken]

I might be inclined to sympathize with the farmer but when he's got an armed militia ready to start a firefight he loses me. These guys are real nutters: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-hannity-stokes-tension-between-harry-reid-and-cliven-bundy/ holy **** what freaks. This guy starts talking about the Blood Moon? I love how Fox News is openly instigating a shootout, by using crazy right-wing internet sources. Hannity is practically drooling for something crazy to happen. If the left was doing this with a Black Panther type group could you imagine the backlash?

 

[Dr. Jones]

I might be inclined to sympathize with the farmer but when he's got an armed militia ready to start a firefight he loses me. These guys are real nutters: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-hannity-stokes-tension-between-harry-reid-and-cliven-bundy/ holy **** what freaks. This guy starts talking about the Blood Moon? I love how Fox News is openly instigating a shootout, by using crazy right-wing internet sources. Hannity is practically drooling for something crazy to happen. If the left was doing this with a Black Panther type group could you imagine the backlash?

Just stfu. Srsly. Stay the **** out of the thread if all you can do is link a fed article and talk **** bout nothing.
You live in utah? Just curious.