Yesterday - Bundy Ranch

[Stoked]

Pretty sure Stoked wasn't suggesting the reporters tell him to stop (duh).. but rather his family/friends/etc.

This...if one of my friends came out with that I would call them out on the carpet over it.

 

[fallenchicken]

Well, that didn't take long.

 

[Harambe]

Redneck is as Redneck does. Still doesn't change that he kinda does have a pre-"desert tortoise OMG" right to graze on the land.

 

[Harambe]

And I think Stoked's got a good idea. Get a third party involved... several third parties. Ranchers, Lawyers arguing for both sides, environmentalists, economists.. Half citizens, half from other countries. Give them all the data and let them decide.

Tying this up in court is only going to be a long, brutal conflict that hicksville Clive can't afford. The US Government shouldn't have to afford.

 

[fishonjazz]

If you will go back to an earlier post in this thread, I documented in a fun little story, my own acquaintance with some Bundys, where I stated my reservations for the clan intellect. However, if the NY Times is the first to break this news, it merely shows, to my knowledge, the obvious standard strategy of the NY Times. The NY Times is the same journalistic institution that lauded Stalin as a great reformer in the early nineteenth century, and covered up the famine in the Ukraine that killed millions, while advertising the great land reforms in Russia of that era.

The Bundys might be backwoods hicks with little or no sophistication or even attunement to our culture, and it shouldn't be difficult for anyone to smear them if necessary to quell an awakening reaction to the excesses of government gone amok. But I'd wait until I could hear the actual recording of the talk. For certain, nobody can do much talking in todays' pitched media fight for conflicting visions of the future without providing ammo for the opposition.

Good post.

And one of the first posts by babe i have ever finished...... usually they are of the tl;dr type for me

 

[VINYLONE]

You asked for his specific firm. Soemthing that can easily be used to find his real life name, address...

Not suggesting you would do such a thing. Just amazes me when people ask for specific info from another poster. That's all.

Again, are you representing Kicky here on the board? I've met Kick once in real life and he seems capable enough in making decisions on his own. I only asked what kind of law he practiced to make a note of it just in case I needed an attorney at some point. You never know.

 

[babe]

Again, are you representing Kicky here on the board? I've met Kick once in real life and he seems capable enough in making decisions on his own. I only asked what kind of law he practiced to make a note of it just in case I needed an attorney at some point. You never know.

Probably, Stoked is trying to tell you to send Kicky a PM or something and not to expect him to post it in this thread. No big deal, just discrete. If Kicky wants to respond, that's entirely his own discretion.

Probably not a really good idea to make it an issue in a thread like this, even it it is titled something like "Free Speech Zone. . . "

 

[Hantlers]

Redneck is as Redneck does. Still doesn't change that he kinda does have a pre-"desert tortoise OMG" right to graze on the land.

Yeah…he has those viewpoints because he's a redneck. That explains it.

Also, he does not have a right to graze that land. Common sense, and the law, has proven that.

 

[babe]

Yeah…he has those viewpoints because he's a redneck. That explains it.

Also, he does not have a right to graze that land. Common sense, and the law, has proven that.

Not sure just how sarcastic you're being sometimes. . . .

When I think of "rednecks" I usually project someone with a southern accent and a truck set on cinder blocks in the front yard, who likes country music.

I come from essentially identical roots as Cliven Bundy, except my dad was a college prof and later a high-level manager in a corporate empire that kept him traveling across the country telling people what to do and how to do it.

I remember my dad once, circa 1968, spoke about how a federal official came to his office to enquire about how many blacks were employed in his labs, and how he responded by asking the official if he wanted to know how many polygamists he was employing as well, implying that polygamists lived under the same kind of public prejudices as black folks, in some quarters at least. His father had been an LDS missionary in the South, in Tennessee circa 1900, when a Mormon missionary was lynched just like some black men were. . . .

 

[dodo]

I found this

https://blogs.reuters.com/photographers-blog/2014/04/23/nevada-showdown/

interesting. Speaking of snipers

“I’ve got a clear shot at four of them,” the man with a rifle beside me said, as he aimed his weapon in the direction of U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) officers.

 

[Harambe]

Yeah…he has those viewpoints because he's a redneck. That explains it.

Also, he does not have a right to graze that land. Common sense, and the law, has proven that.

You still missing the point here? 56 pages and you still don't see anything other than black and white(see the sly racist joke there... I'll write it out since I don't feel like you're going to get it)?

Yes, he's breaking the law. No ****, sherlock. I've already said as much in this thread.

Should the law be a law?
Should the Federal government be enforcing this law, or should it be the states rights?
If any government is at the helm, should they be bringing in armed military and special forces units?

Not necessarily out of the three above, pick any one route and follow it to it's end. You'll see issues everywhere.

Maybe I'm going to far... maybe you just consider yourself a redneck and take offense to me imaging all rednecks as racists.

If that's the case, my apologies. I'll throw out the disclaimer that not all rednecks are racist, just the vast majority of the ones I've met.

That being said, he has more of a right to it than the federal government does to tell him no.

 

[Dr. Jones]

You still missing the point here? 56 pages and you still don't see anything other than black and white(see the sly racist joke there... I'll write it out since I don't feel like you're going to get it)?

Yes, he's breaking the law. No ****, sherlock. I've already said as much in this thread.

Should the law be a law?
Should the Federal government be enforcing this law, or should it be the states rights?
If any government is at the helm, should they be bringing in armed military and special forces units?

Not necessarily out of the three above, pick any one route and follow it to it's end. You'll see issues everywhere.

Maybe I'm going to far... maybe you just consider yourself a redneck and take offense to me imaging all rednecks as racists.

If that's the case, my apologies. I'll throw out the disclaimer that not all rednecks are racist, just the vast majority of the ones I've met.

That being said, he has more of a right to it than the federal government does to tell him no.

Good post.