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Not really, this is a very large area. The cows will also drift away from loud noises and construction. Such as building water tanks and dirt roads.

Even a large area of low food yield land will be devastated by 1000 cattle. Need a HELL of a lot more water than the area produces to revitalize it, which ruins the natural habitat of the area, which is one of the factors in this case.
 
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In response to the comments about hard to improve land with a 1,000 cattle. Pointing out that this isn't a small plot of land. That cattle, like most animals, will shy away from constant noise and commotion.
 
Even a large area of low food yield land will be devastated by 1000 cattle. Need a HELL of a lot more water than the area produces to revitalize it, which ruins the natural habitat of the area, which is one of the factors in this case.

So then the debate is more what constitutes "improvement". Correct?
 
Even a large area of low food yield land will be devastated by 1000 cattle. Need a HELL of a lot more water than the area produces to revitalize it, which ruins the natural habitat of the area, which is one of the factors in this case.

Nothing a good ole fashioned solar plant can't fix.
 
So then the debate is more what constitutes "improvement". Correct?

I find it hard to believe desert/steppe land can sustain itself when being grazed by 1000 cattle. Buildings and roads aren't going to change that. The only way to sustain the land as it is currently is to pump resources into it. Hard to consider that an improvement.
 
I find it hard to believe desert/steppe land can sustain itself when being grazed by 1000 cattle. Buildings and roads aren't going to change that. The only way to sustain the land as it is currently is to pump resources into it. Hard to consider that an improvement.

Well the claim is that they have placed road ways, water tanks, irrigation lines...can be argued as improvements to the land. Just not enviromental improvements which seems to be what you are arguing. I wonder if that was a specific issue decided in court.
 
The lengths some will go to defend their defense of a racist piece of ****. Wow.

A cowboy hat and a gun on a turd is a turd, folks.
 
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Solar panel in and of itself would have the land produce more than what would be going into it.

While I'm not against solar power in and of itself, it's some of the other details and the fact that you tell ranchers they can't ruin the land with their cattle yet you are fine with ruining it with construction crews etc that do far more damage. Why push ranchers off of land they've used for years to do this where there are a million other places you can put a plant like this? There's more to all this crap and shenanigans that involve cash and power than have anything to do with preserving land for our future.
 
The lengths some will go to defend their defense of a racist piece of ****. Wow.

A cowboy hat and a gun on a turd is a turd, folks.

Are you even reading this thread? The general consensus is that Bundy is wrong legally as well as a bigot/racist. But we are beyond arguing about him and are talking about the details of the case. Damn man...
 
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